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OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

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Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

#11

Dumb, fail for user freedom, nothing owned by OpenAI can be used to … create AI or anything that competes with them: scheduled AI, AI agents, AI tools, AI coding, chat, audio, image gen, video gen, shopping, and oh, anything the AI can do, soon social networking and hardware, what’s left that doesn’t compete with these assholes? ChatGPT is a great breakthrough but it’s wasted if everyone has to worry about a noncompe…

Where's this non-compete clause? In ChatGPT T&Cs?

Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

#12
post #7

They didn't even buy an IDE since windsurf is more like a VS code plugin. So what was it exactly that was worth the 3B that they couldn't replicate themselves? Their prompts? Their training sets? Their users or user data?

To be honest, Windsurf doesn't work like half of the time, so it's more likely their users, the data, and their branding/marketing potential.

Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

#13
post #7

They didn't even buy an IDE since windsurf is more like a VS code plugin. So what was it exactly that was worth the 3B that they couldn't replicate themselves? Their prompts? Their training sets? Their users or user data?

Windsurf/Codeium plugin is at least 3 years old.

Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

#14
post #7

They didn't even buy an IDE since windsurf is more like a VS code plugin. So what was it exactly that was worth the 3B that they couldn't replicate themselves? Their prompts? Their training sets? Their users or user data?

Maybe time? OpenAI has access to basically infinite capital right now, if they believe this will be an importnat market and they could save a few months on launching this acquisition may be worth it for them.

Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

#16
Windsurf probably sees this as a win. I still think they're behind in some areas, Cursor's Agent feels faster and more responsive but Windsurf nails the rest. The documentation is far better, and the overall developer experience is more solid. Cursor still feels like a hacked-on plug-in in a broken VS Code fork. Even small touches, like built-in Linux install instructions, show Windsurf's polish.

Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

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post #16

Windsurf probably sees this as a win. I still think they're behind in some areas, Cursor's Agent feels faster and more responsive but Windsurf nails the rest. The documentation is far better, and the overall developer experience is more solid. Cursor still feels like a hacked-on plug-in in a broken VS Code fork. Even small touches, like built-in Linux install instructions, show Windsurf's polish.

> Its the little things like having baked in instructions to install Windsurf on linux.

When I went to download Cursor the other day I noticed that they do not offer any .deb/.rpm packages and just offer the FlatPak (could be a Snap I'm not sure). This just tells me they really dont understand the community and just wanted to ship something for Linux and be done with it.

Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

#18
post #16

Windsurf probably sees this as a win. I still think they're behind in some areas, Cursor's Agent feels faster and more responsive but Windsurf nails the rest. The documentation is far better, and the overall developer experience is more solid. Cursor still feels like a hacked-on plug-in in a broken VS Code fork. Even small touches, like built-in Linux install instructions, show Windsurf's polish.

> Its the little things like having baked in instructions to install Windsurf on linux. When I went to download Cursor the other day I noticed that they do not offer any .deb/.rpm packages and just offer the FlatPak (could be a Snap I'm not sure). This just tells me they really dont understand the community and just wanted to ship something for Linux and be done with it.

There's a difference between understanding the community and prioritizing investments.

I'm sure Cursor has more than few devs that primarily use Linux...

Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B

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post #16

Windsurf probably sees this as a win. I still think they're behind in some areas, Cursor's Agent feels faster and more responsive but Windsurf nails the rest. The documentation is far better, and the overall developer experience is more solid. Cursor still feels like a hacked-on plug-in in a broken VS Code fork. Even small touches, like built-in Linux install instructions, show Windsurf's polish.

In my experience, Windsurf was significantly more effective when working with a big codebase.
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