Evolving OpenAI's Structure

Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, May 05, 2025, 9:31 PM UTC

esafak wrote: post #163

BeetleB wrote: post #144

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What I meant is: Europe can choose to regulate as they do, and end up living in a Chinese dystopia because the Chinese will drastically benefit from non-regulated AI, or they can create their own AI dystopia. A non-AI dystopia is the least likely scenario.

If you are suggesting that China may use AI to attack Europe, they can invest in defense without unleashing AI domestically. And I don't think China will become a utopia with unregulated AI. My impression after having visited it was not one of a utopia, and knowing how they use technology, I don't think AI will usher it in, because our visions of utopia are at odds. They may well enjoy what they have. But if things g…

Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, May 05, 2025, 9:34 PM UTC

_false wrote: post #12

Here's a critical summary: Key Structure Changes: - Abandoning the "capped profit" model (which limited investor returns) in favor of traditional equity structure - Converting for-profit LLC to Public Benefit Corporation (PBC) - Nonprofit remains in control but also becomes a major shareholder Reading Between the Lines: 1. Power Play: The "nonprofit control" messaging appears to be damage control following previous g…

Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, May 05, 2025, 9:35 PM UTC

voidspark wrote: post #337

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #328

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> Technically it is a refinement, as it distinguishes levels of performance No, it's bringing something out of scope into the definition. Gluten-free means free of gluten. Gluten-free bagel verus sliced bread is a refinement--both started out under the definition. Glutinous bread, on the other hand, is not gluten free. As a result, "almost gluten free" is bullshit. > That's my point. Humans are not "autocompleting wo…

> Gluten-free means free of gluten. Bad analogy. That's a binary classification. AGI systems can have degrees of performance and capability. > Humans are not. LLMs are. My point is that if you oversimplify LLMs to "word autocompletion" then you can make the same argument for humans. It's such an oversimplification of the transformer / deep learning architecture that it becomes meaningless.

Post by tomnipotent » Mon, May 05, 2025, 9:37 PM UTC

caseyy wrote: post #287

roflmaostc wrote: post #245

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Just to get things right. The big AI LLM hype started end of 2022 with the launch of ChatGPT, DALL-E 2, .... Most people in society connect AI directly to ChatGPT and hence OpenAI. And there has been a lot of progress in image generation, video generation, ... So I think your timeline and views are slightly off.

> Just to get things right. The big AI LLM hype started end of 2022 with the launch of ChatGPT, DALL-E 2, .... GPT-2 was released in 2019, GPT-3 in 2020. I'd say 2020 is significant because that's when people seriously considered the Turing test passed reliably for the first time. But for the sake of this argument, it hardly matters what date years back we choose. There's been enough time since then to see the platea…

Post by insane_dreamer » Mon, May 05, 2025, 9:40 PM UTC

jampekka wrote: post #291

> We are committed to this path of democratic AI. So were do I vote? How do I became a candidate to be a representative or a delegate of voters? I assume every single human is eligible for both, as OpenAI serves the humanity?