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Evolving OpenAI's Structure
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
OpenAI is winning in a similar way that Apple is winning in smartphones. OpenAI is capturing most of the value in the space (generic LLM models), even though they have competitors who are beating them on price or capabilities. I think OpenAI may be able to maintain this position at least for the medium term because of their name recognition/prominence and they are still a fast mover. I also think the US is going to b…
> ban all non-US LLM providers What do you consider an "LLM provider"? Is it a website where you interact with a language model by uploading text or images? That definition might become too broad too quickly. Hard to ban.
rather than coming up with a thorough definition, legislation will likely target individual companies (DeepSeek, Alibaba Cloud, etc)
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amen brother
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#114SamA is in a hurry because he's set to lose the race. We're at peak valuation and he needs to convert something now . If the entrenched giants (Google, Microsoft and Apple) catch up - and Google 100% has, if not surpassed - they have a thousand levers to pull and OpenAI is done for. Microsoft has realized this, hence why they're breaking up with them - Google and Anthropic have shown they don't need OpenAI. Galaxy ph…
Even Alibaba is releasing some amazing models these days. Qwen 3 is pretty remarkable, especially considering the variety of hardware the variants of it can run on.
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#115The intro sounds awfully familiar...
> Sam’s Letter to Employees.
> OpenAI is not a normal company and never will be.
Where did I hear something like that before...
> Founders' IPO Letter
> Google is not a conventional company. We do not intend to become one.
I wonder if it's intentional or perhaps some AI-assisted regurgitation prompted by "write me a successful letter to introduce a new corporate structure of a tech company".
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#116I see OpenAI's original form as the last gasp of a kind of liberal tech; in a world where "doing good" was seen as very important, the non-profit approach made sense and got a lot of people on board. These days the Altmans and the pmarcas of the world are much more comfortable expressing their authoritarian, self-centered world views; the "evolving" structure of Open AI is fully in line with that. They want to be the…
Is it reasonable to assign the descriptor “authoritarian” to anyone who simply does not subscribe to the common orthodoxy of one faction in the american culture war? That is what it seems to me is happening here, though I would love to be wrong. I have not seen anything from sama or pmarca that I would classify as “authoritarian”.
are you aware of worldcoin?
altman building a centralised authority of who will be classed as "human" is about as authoritarian as you could get
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#117I see OpenAI's original form as the last gasp of a kind of liberal tech; in a world where "doing good" was seen as very important, the non-profit approach made sense and got a lot of people on board. These days the Altmans and the pmarcas of the world are much more comfortable expressing their authoritarian, self-centered world views; the "evolving" structure of Open AI is fully in line with that. They want to be the…
Hopelessly over-idealistic premise. Sama and pg have never been anything other than opportunistic muck. This will be my last ever comment on HN.
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#118Carcinisation in action: free (foss) -> non-profit -> capped-profit -> public benefits corporation -> (you guessed it)
No, this only happens if:
1) You're successful.
2) You mess up checks-and-balances at the beginning.
OpenAI did both.
Personally, I think at some point, the AGs ought to take over and push it back into a non-profit format. OAI undermines the concept of a non-profit.
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No, it's good that you feel this. Don't give up on tech, protest.
I've been feeling for some time now that we're sort of in the Vietnam War era of the tech industry.
I feel a strong urge to have more "ok, so where do we go from here?" and "what does a tech industry that promotes net good actually look like?" internal discourse in the community of practice, and some sort of ethical social contract for software engineering.
The open source movement has been fabulous and sometimes adjacent to or one aspect of these concerns, but really we need a movement for socially conscious and responsible software.
We need a tech counter-culture. We had one once, but now we need one.