You can't git clone a team
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You can't git clone a team
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#2I think the issue started way before AI when it comes to not having enough fresh blood for this industry. Companies have decided they don't want to train juniors. They want seniors who already have the skills.
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#3Maybe I'm being too cynical, but I can't tell whether this is a promotional piece for something..
That said, I do agree with the premise of the article that it's hard to learn "the stack", especially with the advent of generative AI.
"Back in the day", when google spat out a link to something resembling your problem, you still had to deconstruct the answer given to apply it to your particular case. That required some sort of understanding, or a mental model of the domain. With ChatGPT I find myself copying/pasting error messages between two browser windows, or a terminal, not really understanding what is going on.
No learning is happening. Does not bode well for new folks coming in.
Re: You can't git clone a team
#4I think the issue started way before AI when it comes to not having enough fresh blood for this industry. Companies have decided they don't want to train juniors. They want seniors who already have the skills.
This just means the market is saturated. When there aren't enough people they'll accept less experience
Re: You can't git clone a team
#5Maybe I'm being too cynical, but I can't tell whether this is a promotional piece for something.. That said, I do agree with the premise of the article that it's hard to learn "the stack", especially with the advent of generative AI. "Back in the day", when google spat out a link to something resembling your problem, you still had to deconstruct the answer given to apply it to your particular case. That required some…
doesn't bode well for you either
Re: You can't git clone a team
#6I think the issue started way before AI when it comes to not having enough fresh blood for this industry. Companies have decided they don't want to train juniors. They want seniors who already have the skills.
> Companies have decided they don't want to train juniors. They want seniors who already have the skills.
It got worse in last two years. Now Senior Engineers must have exact combo of the weird tech stack and tools with N years of experience exactly as the existing employees, else gtfo, you don't even get screening calls. You don't have something from nice to have list? Lol, why are you wasting our recruiter's time even? She needs to use GenAI to write her next rejection email.
Also, your 15yoe does not matter, unless you are coming from direct competitor, in which case your 1.5yoe with internship is also excellent.
Re: You can't git clone a team
#7Maybe I'm being too cynical, but I can't tell whether this is a promotional piece for something.. That said, I do agree with the premise of the article that it's hard to learn "the stack", especially with the advent of generative AI. "Back in the day", when google spat out a link to something resembling your problem, you still had to deconstruct the answer given to apply it to your particular case. That required some…
doesn't bode well for you either
"A problem well stated is a problem half solved", is all I got for now.
Re: You can't git clone a team
#8I think the issue started way before AI when it comes to not having enough fresh blood for this industry. Companies have decided they don't want to train juniors. They want seniors who already have the skills.
I’m a lead consultant on a gig where the CTO outright told us that he’s not really interested in growing their (frankly, under qualified) engineers, just wants them to get on with the job - it’s very short-sighted and sad.
That said, in my previous job in a startup we hired very junior engineers and gave them plenty of opportunity and support for growth and several people did stunningly well. Pity the company didn’t do very well (IMHO due to focusing more or this sort of thing rather than making money).
The truth is bound to be somewhere in the middle.
Re: You can't git clone a team
#9I think the issue started way before AI when it comes to not having enough fresh blood for this industry. Companies have decided they don't want to train juniors. They want seniors who already have the skills.
This just means the market is saturated. When there aren't enough people they'll accept less experience
...this doesn't make sense. Surely you need to factor in price point. Often times junior engineers deliver disproportionate value. Some ratio of juniors:seniors just seems rational, and those juniors grow into seniors.
Maybe there's a good argument against training, but it could also just be irrational and stubborn in this case.
Re: You can't git clone a team
#10I think the issue started way before AI when it comes to not having enough fresh blood for this industry. Companies have decided they don't want to train juniors. They want seniors who already have the skills.
I’m a lead consultant on a gig where the CTO outright told us that he’s not really interested in growing their (frankly, under qualified) engineers, just wants them to get on with the job - it’s very short-sighted and sad. That said, in my previous job in a startup we hired very junior engineers and gave them plenty of opportunity and support for growth and several people did stunningly well. Pity the company didn’t…
>That said, in my previous job in a startup we hired very junior engineers and gave them plenty of opportunity and support for growth and several people did stunningly well. Pity the company didn’t do very well (IMHO due to focusing more or this sort of thing rather than making money).
Mentoring is a key part of technical leadership, way easier to help the talent grow into your requirements (even if they are under-qualified, for now)