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Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by ykonstant »

herewulf wrote: post #31

I'm finally updating my CV after years of neglect. I'm keen on switching to the route of Org mode -> LaTeX -> PDF. It's partly because I love the simplicity/power of Org and I do all my writing in it nowadays, the other part is to separate the content from the presentation so I can have the content in two different languages but still end up with the same formatted document for both. Anyone have experience with this…

My go-to template collection is from Overleaf: https://www.overleaf.com/gallery/tagged/cv

My cv is an adaptation of one of the templates there: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1woxVNcJ4AmT7dD2WEnYr9BHEEY7...

EDIT: ahahahahaha I just came across this cv: https://www.overleaf.com/latex/templates/resume-slash-cv-tem...

Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by godelski »

josephg wrote: post #33
mr_mitm wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember tons of latex zealots 20 years ago. The internet must be full of latex vs word flamewars. Also, typst is just really good.

> Also, typst is just really good. Yeah - typst has a bunch of features that I really want for blog posts and rich documentation, where markdown isn't a powerful enough tool. For example: - Boxes & named figures - Footnotes - Variables, functions (incl populated from nearby files) - Comments - Chapter / Section headings (& auto generated table of contents) - Custom formatting rules (For example, typst lets you define…

You can do footnotes in markdown [^0]

[^0]: it doesn't matter where this is placed, just that this one has a colon.

The table of contents thing is annoying but it's not hard to write a little bash script. Sed and regex are all you need.

  > Markdown doesn't have enough features
Markdown has too many features

The issue is you're using the wrong tool. Markdown is not intended for making fancy documents or blogs, it's meant to be a deadass simple format that can be read in anything. Hell, its goal is to be readable in a text editor so its more about styling. If you really want to use it and have occasional fanciness, you can use html.

But don't turn a tool that is explicitly meant to be simple into something complicated just because it doesn't have enough features. The lack of features is the point.

Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by fsiefken »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #24
fsiefken wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typst is more minimal and faster in compiling documents, I prefer using it. But it's not in all cases a LaTex replacement. The ecosystem is also larger. I have LaTex documents I struggle to convert.

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I know, i love pedal to the metal - small is beautiful, it's lean and mean, but it's not a replacement in some cases.

As an alternative, tectonic is a bit faster then the standard LaTex distributions:

https://github.com/tectonic-typesetting/tectonic/discussions...

https://tectonic-typesetting.github.io/en-US/

Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by wiz21c »

cess11 wrote: post #45

It's easier and good enough to just use LyX, a graphical document editor with a bunch of backends and templates, and if you really need to do something special you can still drop down to LaTeX and do your own templating. https://www.lyx.org/ It's published under GPL so relatively protected from corporate nuisances. Takes five minutes to teach someone how to mark headlines, add content listing and change document type…

and maths shortcuts are really easy

Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by flanked-evergl »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #26
BlackFly wrote: post #19

I always wonder why people compare Latex with word and not with the single most popular document markup (especially here): HTML + css + javascript. The problems are quite similar, "How do I center a div?" vs "How do I keep this float on this page?" Has latex really modernized? I don't hear a lot about new layouts or style mechanisms. Most people are probably reading articles online these days, although there is a lot…

Because HTML is not an option. For academic papers you usually have to submit pdfs conforming to either a latex or word template.

Academic publishing standards are about as much of a joke as academia itself.

Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by js8 »

JohnKemeny wrote: post #11
dochtman wrote: post #5

Typst is the modern LaTeX. https://typst.app/

Typst sure has a lot of good marketeers. LaTeX never needed that.

IMHO, good marketeers for LaTeX were people who wanted to typeset (write nicely) math but were scared of TeX.

Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by IshKebab »

croemer wrote: post #39
dochtman wrote: post #5

Typst is the modern LaTeX. https://typst.app/

Typst doesn't (yet) have one of the features that make LaTex stand out: microtypography. See https://github.com/typst/typst/issues/4693

That's not why people use LaTeX. I doubt most users even know about it. The standout feature is fantastic support for equations and figures.

That and Computer Modern. I bet a significant number of users use it because of that!

Personally I would just use LyX. Its equation editor is actually fantastic.

Re: Modern LaTeX

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Post by kaoD »

misnome wrote: post #40
dochtman wrote: post #5

Typst is the modern LaTeX. https://typst.app/

“Pricing”, “Sign Up” Ah yes, this definitely is the “Modern” approach. There does seem to be an open source, non-SAAS part, but information about it looks pretty deliberately buried.

Well everyone likes free software (as in freedom and beer) but 0 of you pay, while on a 6 figure salary. Meanwhile no hesitation to pay AWS, Netflix, Amazon, etc. all of them net negative contributors to free software.

So... yeah.

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