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Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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> Israel’s grip on DC’s balls is far too strong I more or less agree. > We’re literally an occupied nation The language of the US under occupation is a neonazi talking point, ZOG (Zionist Occupation Government) being a phrase neonazi morons like. Maybe a coincidence.

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Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Israel’s grip on DC’s balls is far too strong I more or less agree. > We’re literally an occupied nation The language of the US under occupation is a neonazi talking point, ZOG (Zionist Occupation Government) being a phrase neonazi morons like. Maybe a coincidence.

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Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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what is going on in the US gov IT? They took an Israeli app, that is a modified version of signal. the modification BREAKS the one thing signal is excellent at (keeping your messages encrypted so that only the desired endpoints can read them), then distributed it within the US Gov. This is insanity! US's enemy's couldn't manufacture a better result themselves!

The messages do need to be recorded in a way that can be read by people other than the intended recipients due to federal record keeping laws. I’m curious if this particular app has been in use for a long time within the government and only recently became a target after it was accidentally revealed in that cabinet meeting photo.

Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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https://archive.is/2025.05.04-225615/https://www.404media.co... Why are these being instantly marked as dead?

Submissions from some domains aren’t prevented but automatically get deaded. It’s not a campaign.

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43891088 in which a user reports that moderator dang said why that happens for this domain.

Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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post #8

I appended a 'd' to the end of the title to pre-empt objections that they're not still using it. If it's known for sure that they are, we can de-'d' that bit. Edit: this subthread is obsolete now - I took a phrase from the author's update to the article to use as the title above.

honest question, but you decided to go against the "don't change titles" rule to choose one unprovable point until another just as unprovable point is proven? it could be argued both ways with the same argument.

"Used" still allows "use" in the mitch-hedbergian sense.

Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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post #37

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Do you think they are using the message archiving version so that they can meet organizational message retention requirements? Maybe they are using signal to ensure they have e2e encrypted messaging on their devices?

There are already government e2e apps. The only reason to use something else is to have selective auto-deletion and/or to use personal devices for official classified data.

Another reason: all of the folks on that group chat have legitimate reasons to have contacts on their phone that would be outside government apps. Foreign leadership. Journalists. Etc.

Signal is likely to be one of the main ways of communicating with those.

Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are already government e2e apps. The only reason to use something else is to have selective auto-deletion and/or to use personal devices for official classified data.

Another reason: all of the folks on that group chat have legitimate reasons to have contacts on their phone that would be outside government apps. Foreign leadership. Journalists. Etc. Signal is likely to be one of the main ways of communicating with those.

Using separate apps for government and external communication might have prevented the recent scandal.

Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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post #3

The big part of this story which nobody is talking about is the fact that the app is literally controlled by a bunch of “former” Israeli intelligence officers. Who now have what is arguably the worlds most valuable access out of anyone.

The US and many other countries have been buying Israeli surveillance tools for years or decades.

I would hope that any message archiving is being done on an organization-owned server though.

Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think they are using the message archiving version so that they can meet organizational message retention requirements? Maybe they are using signal to ensure they have e2e encrypted messaging on their devices?

There are already government e2e apps. The only reason to use something else is to have selective auto-deletion and/or to use personal devices for official classified data.

Do you have the link to this alleged government-produced e2e software so we can inspect ourselves? I realize they have an incentive to appear incompetent, but surely there must be evidence (further than your testimony) of such gossip popping up somewhere

Re: Technical analysis of the Signal clone used by Trump officials

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> 404 Media journalist Joseph Cox published a story pointing out that Waltz was not using the official Signal app, but rather "an obscure and unofficial version of Signal that is designed to archive messages" Wow. And that's while their entire point of using Signal is to have conversations scrapped after a week to leave no no traces of criminal activity.

What? The point of Signal is not message scraping, but a good E2E encryption. Message scraping is just one feature the app provides that you can turn of if you wish.
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