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Some folks are adrenaline junkies. Doing this stuff when you have kids though is negligence and even worse doing it when the kid already lost one parent to the activity. Fuck those parents and anyone here that's like them.
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Driving to the mountains is often more dangerous than climbing a mountain. Things change at the elite levels, but that is true for any sport.
Climbing Mt. Everest is three times more deadly than driving -- that is, 3x the chance of dying while driving anytime in your entire life .
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honestly your comment and others are condescending as hell. For sure there are risks that the best planing cant safe one from but this is live. Many sports and adventures are dangerous. Doing a shitload of cocaine or alcohol is way more dangerous and shitty towards society then mountaineering. I am mountaineering and i come from a family of mountaineers. I asure you usually those people are very aware of what they ar…
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honestly your comment and others are condescending as hell. For sure there are risks that the best planing cant safe one from but this is live. Many sports and adventures are dangerous. Doing a shitload of cocaine or alcohol is way more dangerous and shitty towards society then mountaineering. I am mountaineering and i come from a family of mountaineers. I asure you usually those people are very aware of what they ar…
No condescension intended. I think I understand the appeal, in the same way I understand Jack London stories, Joseph Conrad novels, Survivor, Fight Club, and that bear movie guy. We’re too civilized, we’re hothouse flowers, and a little danger makes you feel alive. Especially if you are raised with traditional masculine values. If you could have the same solitude, sweeping views, natural beauty, cameraderie, etc., bu…
Well, yeah. Most of the gear for mountaineering and other pursuits are to try and minimize risk because we deem the gain is worth the risk but still it's worth reducing risk.
After all, that's the same reason people drive despite it being a leading cause of death.
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Do you have a citation for that? In my personal experience, that does not seem true. I have a number of friends who have been seriously injured climbing, e.g. from large rocks falling from above, presumably loosened by water freezing and expanding over the winter. I don't know anyone who's gotten into an accident on their trip to or from climbing. Car accidents are already pretty rare overall, and driving to/from cli…
> Mountains are inherently dangerous, unpredictable places in ways that roads usually aren't. Mountains are peaceful places without the majority of people around them required to keep perfectly attentive to their surroundings so they don't kill you. If you're in the mountains, your likelihood of experiencing dangerous situations depends on the environment, your skill and fitness, the weather, and maybe others on the…
But that's arguing from emotion. The only thing that actually matters is statistics.
And statistically, it seems like people get injured far more often when climbing on mountains than when on the road to climbing.
It doesn't matter if you might die on roads because you "get distracted for a moment", because that's actually a very rare occurrence. It doesn't matter that when you get injured on a mountain, you "opted into that risk", because you opt into driving too.
The point is just where are you more likely to get injured. And roads seem to be the safer place if you're talking about hours spent.
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Some folks are adrenaline junkies. Doing this stuff when you have kids though is negligence and even worse doing it when the kid already lost one parent to the activity. Fuck those parents and anyone here that's like them.
It’s massively more risky than commercial flight travel and seems to serve no practical utility.
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You can mitigate to greater or lesser. Kate Matrosova was actually well prepared when she died a few years ago. She should simply have gone out in that forecast On the other hand, you get into the bigger mountains and it’s a lot harder. To time the weather and other dangers.
Not gone out of course.
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Driving to the mountains is often more dangerous than climbing a mountain. Things change at the elite levels, but that is true for any sport.
Do you have a citation for that? In my personal experience, that does not seem true. I have a number of friends who have been seriously injured climbing, e.g. from large rocks falling from above, presumably loosened by water freezing and expanding over the winter. I don't know anyone who's gotten into an accident on their trip to or from climbing. Car accidents are already pretty rare overall, and driving to/from cli…
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6843304/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in...
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Some folks are adrenaline junkies. Doing this stuff when you have kids though is negligence and even worse doing it when the kid already lost one parent to the activity. Fuck those parents and anyone here that's like them.
In that particular story, I understand the daughter and son were already adults.