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Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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You'd think at this point there would be a dozen solid competitors to Adobe Acrobat. You'd really fuckin think so. And yet filling out a pdf and signing it with a certificate (aka the bog standard procedure for much of modern bureaucracy) is still too much to ask for any pdf software on linux. It just doesn't exist. How?

Right now the signatures are digital ink, but I plan on adding signatures with certificates so it's more official.

Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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I tossed a legal document at it which was recently of passing interest to me, and it looks like embedded fonts still need some work. I'm not inclined to share a test case from what I have, which relates to a change of name and in any case was not really prepared by anyone especially competent when it comes to PDFs and their content; I tested with the first, facially void, version I was given. But it is possible I'll find more use for this tool, and if a shareable test case does come along then I'll do so. (And heaven knows with this document format, embedded fonts are a total nightmare always, even somehow in programmatic authoring. I'm not criticizing!)

On a similar note, a downloadable (single-file HTML or so, although these days some kind of HTTP service is a practical necessity) version would be nice to have. Low pri even from my perspective; it isn't that I spend a lot of time in places with no cell signal, so much as just that tethering on an a la carte plan gets out of hand pretty quick, since applications aren't at all required to honor or even notice the existence of the "data saver" option.

This is really neat! Thanks for posting it, I've bookmarked it for later use in the "just need a quick tweak" kind of case. I'll look forward to seeing how it develops!

Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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I like it! It has most of the features I need in a PDF doc and nothing of the bloat. The only features missing for me are: callout text comments, redact text, and flatten PDF. It's snappy and pretty easy to understand. Good job As much as I'd like it, we all know it can't remain "100% free and no sign-up". What's your plan to avoid enshitification?

Thanks! Text comments, redaction and flattening are definitely features I'll add.

One way it'll avoid enshitification is that I have no VCs or anything like that, it's just me. So I only answer to actual users.

My hunch is that while PDF editing is something people commonly do, most people probably don't want to pay for it, at least for basic features. My plan is to add Google Adsense, but in a way that is non-obstructive/intrusive.

Depending on feedback, I might add a paid plan for much more advanced features if there's demand. But all the features you mentioned that are missing, as well as all other basic features, will always remain free. Since all the editing happens in the browser, it's a win-win for privacy and lower resource utilization. I just have to render the webpage. It runs on a low cost VPS, so it costs me almost nothing to keep this software running. Given that, there's no current or future costs that would give any reason to remove free features.

Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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post #27

Nice! Recently I had the need for pdf censoring, aka not adding black rectangles but actually removing the content underneath and I still haven't found a suitable tool. Any recommendation? Or even python library to do it?

I developed another tool pdfredactoronline.com that does this. Full redaction/removal of content, not just blacking out text. I didn't include it in this tool for now due to the APGL license of the library that enables the redaction, but since something fully in the browser is kinda open source already, I'll see if I can comply with the license while including it in BreezePDF

Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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post #37

Add a text block - it adds a block that wraps (it's a bit narrow, would like to change its size). When downloading the PDF, the text block is not wrapped, so it doesn't match the way it looks in the editor. Tested in Firefox (but it's the same in Chromium). Nice work on the interface and the offline & local way it works is very welcome!

Hm, mind describing more about how it wraps? Assuming you're referring to text you added? I haven't encountered that myself, but will definitely try and fix.

And thanks!

Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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post #17

Nice work. I've been building something lately to manipulate PDFs in the browser for privacy, although it's quite a different use case. I think I see you're using pdf-lib and jspdf - both great libraries, and I'm using both, but: (1) Have you seen the recent WASM compilation of MuPDF? I am also using it for some functions and find it really excellent with accessible APIs and highly functional. Worth an try! (2) We ch…

(1) Yes, I am very familiar with the WASM compilation of MuPDF. It's got a lot of great features. I actually built another product pdfredactoronline.com that does redaction fully in the browser using the MuPDF WASM compilation. The reason I don't use it in BreezePDF is MuPDF has an APGL license which requires open-sourcing any code that uses their software. Which, I guess technically anything fully browser based is e…

Thanks for the insight. Yes, the AGPL isn't a problem for me - I didn't check your licence as I could just view source :)

Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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post #4

I like it! It has most of the features I need in a PDF doc and nothing of the bloat. The only features missing for me are: callout text comments, redact text, and flatten PDF. It's snappy and pretty easy to understand. Good job As much as I'd like it, we all know it can't remain "100% free and no sign-up". What's your plan to avoid enshitification?

Thanks! Text comments, redaction and flattening are definitely features I'll add. One way it'll avoid enshitification is that I have no VCs or anything like that, it's just me. So I only answer to actual users. My hunch is that while PDF editing is something people commonly do, most people probably don't want to pay for it, at least for basic features. My plan is to add Google Adsense, but in a way that is non-obstru…

> One way it'll avoid enshitification is that I have no VCs or anything like that, it's just me. So I only answer to actual users.

> My plan is to add Google Adsense, but in a way that is non-obstructive/intrusive.

Please do not do Google ads.

Not only that this ruins the privacy of the users and further entrances Google's reach, but it further leads to enshitification which is what we don't want.

Perhaps maybe a small tiny sponsor banner may be better.

Re: Show HN: Free, in-browser PDF editor

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I tossed a legal document at it which was recently of passing interest to me, and it looks like embedded fonts still need some work. I'm not inclined to share a test case from what I have, which relates to a change of name and in any case was not really prepared by anyone especially competent when it comes to PDFs and their content; I tested with the first, facially void, version I was given. But it is possible I'll…

Fonts on the web are super hard. There’s hardly any useful browser APIs for the kind of typesetting you need for PDFs: itemization, character bounding boxes, font file sub setting, etc. To solve or properly, you need to include a lot of code, e.g. all of harfbuzz compiled to wasm.
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