'The Worst Internet-Research Ethics Violation I Have Ever Seen'
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#3The researchers are doing what nation states have been attempting for decades. People have no idea what’s coming.
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#4Gathering in a public forum and having the notion that those one is interacting with are genuine is a completely ridiculous notion. There was no ethics violation whatsoever. Frankly this is one of the most constructive cautionary tales of the 21st century about the human condition.
My contention is that humans are experts at creating tools they are unable to control and/or incapable of using exclusively constructively. This is a damning case study and wonderful for progress in social science. Just modify this “AI” entity into another “human being at a protest or rally or social forum” and suddenly the ethics dispute hold much, much less weight. HUMAN BEINGS LIE ALL THE TIME.
Not everyone who claims to be a victim actually is one. Not everyone who human who advocates violent uprisings does so because they truly want to engage in such behavior. The current President of the US is a consistent liar, easily proven with evidence such as Sharpie marker on a hurricane map (Question: “Who added that?” Response: “I don’t know”) and yet look at the outcome.
Humans are absolutely in a hell of their own making and clutching pearls about this experiment is a clear reminder that many people have erroneous and laughable understandings of human nature. They choose to live in an idealized bubble. It’s much easier than admitting the flaws and cruelty and savagery not “civilized out” but superficially cloaked in modern times.
Great work and I’d love to read the actual paper one day.
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#6The researchers are doing what nation states have been attempting for decades. People have no idea what’s coming.
People have no idea what's coming because people in general haven't been kept up to date on the state of the art of subjects like thought reform, malign influence, coercion, or torture.
As such they often hold opinions that are not based in fact on reality, and instead are based on false belief making them even more susceptible.
Can people even be people if they lack rationality? Human's are much more closer to animals when those people cannot use reason.
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#7Gathering in a public forum and having the notion that those one is interacting with are genuine is a completely ridiculous notion. There was no ethics violation whatsoever. Frankly this is one of the most constructive cautionary tales of the 21st century about the human condition. My contention is that humans are experts at creating tools they are unable to control and/or incapable of using exclusively constructivel…
This was clearly an ethics violation, it knowingly violated the Geneva convention on human experimentation without informed consent, or need.
People don't have to claim that they were a victim, anyone involved without informed consent in this 'is' a victim.
Your reasoning is fallacy. There is no greater weight, no weight at all. Its simply a did it happen, when you conduct a scientific experiment without informed consent or need, on unsuspecting people.
This is what the Nazi's, and many other destructive and evil regimes have done. Supporting this, making light of it, is the same as supporting one of those camps.
Humanity as a whole hasn't made a hell on earth, evil and blind people have.
There are many people that think they are good when in fact their souls are darker than black, and they have just willfully blinded themselves. The study authors would definitely fit this definition.
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#8The researchers are doing what nation states have been attempting for decades. People have no idea what’s coming.
People have no idea what's coming because people in general haven't been kept up to date on the state of the art of subjects like thought reform, malign influence, coercion, or torture. As such they often hold opinions that are not based in fact on reality, and instead are based on false belief making them even more susceptible. Can people even be people if they lack rationality? Human's are much more closer to anima…
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#9Gathering in a public forum and having the notion that those one is interacting with are genuine is a completely ridiculous notion. There was no ethics violation whatsoever. Frankly this is one of the most constructive cautionary tales of the 21st century about the human condition. My contention is that humans are experts at creating tools they are unable to control and/or incapable of using exclusively constructivel…
This was clearly an ethics violation, it knowingly violated the Geneva convention on human experimentation without informed consent, or need. People don't have to claim that they were a victim, anyone involved without informed consent in this 'is' a victim. Your reasoning is fallacy. There is no greater weight, no weight at all. Its simply a did it happen, when you conduct a scientific experiment without informed con…
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#10The researchers are doing what nation states have been attempting for decades. People have no idea what’s coming.
The researchers are doing what nation states have been a̶t̶t̶e̶m̶p̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ doing for decades. People have no idea what’s c̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ happened.
States have been astroturfing internet for a long time. It’s gotten exponentially worse since the Ukraine and Gaza wars though.