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Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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Haha I can tell South Bay isn’t quite communist enough for the People’s Republic of Berkeley compensation model. :)

God you are an unpleasant person. If this compensation model gets rid of people like you, it might be worth it by itself.

As an Oxide employee, let's just say...it does, and it is :)

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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post #112

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Haha I can tell South Bay isn’t quite communist enough for the People’s Republic of Berkeley compensation model. :)

God you are an unpleasant person. If this compensation model gets rid of people like you, it might be worth it by itself.

To each their own I guess :) Exploited hacker congregation isn’t my cup of tea you’re correct.

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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So this surprised me. If their customers are the kind that have airgapped servers, I’m surprised to see roles that all accept worldwide applicants.

You don't need to be in business of security clearances to require air-gapping.

I wasn’t aware of that. Any particular examples?

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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You don't need to be in business of security clearances to require air-gapping.

I wasn’t aware of that. Any particular examples?

Everything that can be airgapped probably should be. Healthcare, education, public safety, social services, public administration. Anything that touches massive troves of sensitive data for an entire country or continent.

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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I like it a lot and their thoughtfulness about it but it's a little hollow when they're spending investor money. I'd like to see how this model evolves once they're off the vc teat: when there's a bottom line to answer to, does the dynamic shift? Everyone has an on-site chef when the money vc hose is on. Valve's flat structure was exciting because it wasn't 3 vc's in a coat larping as a business, it was an actual pro…

Loading up this thread I knew this kind of response would be here. Like, I was willing to bet money on it.

Examples of support people worth $200k+ are abundant, and the business case is the same every time. When you do the work to place a monetary value on customers and their retention your support personnel costs relative to that are easy to justify. When a support person is preventing churn of X number of customers worth $Y dollars a year the math becomes trivial.

The (American) tech industry is so accustomed to massive scale and lack of competition that the notion of giving a damn about customer retention has risen to the level of a cultural, not economic, problem.

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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post #138

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To add: I saw job listings recently posted on bsky and was enjoying how well written they were. The support engineer role description asked that they be able to fly to a customers site at short notice. That’s a whole other level of on-call right there.

> The support engineer role description asked that they be able to fly to a customers site at short notice. Kinda makes sense if you sell physical hardware?

Curious, why did you pose this statement as a question?

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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post #102

I'm more curious how the business is going? Have they got a Fortune 1000 on board yet?

It's going well! We often can't share details about our customers. We did do a joint announcement with Lawrence Livermore National Labs: https://oxide.computer/blog/oxide-computer-company-and-lawre...

Last year Shopify was named as a customer[0], which I found both surprising and not.

[0] https://blocksandfiles.com/2024/07/04/oxide-ships-first-clou...

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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Also some of their customers are airgapped so if they’ll let you touch the machine that’ll make debugging a lot easier.

> some of their customers are airgapped I'm not doubting you, but where did you hear that? Wow, what kind of data center installation is air-gapped in 2025, except for ... maybe military industrial complex (maunuf + military) and spy agencies?

I don't have any details, but on their public website, they highlight LLNL (ELI5: US nuclear weapons research lab founded by Edward Teller) as a customer. I am not 100% certain they require airgapping, but it is totally conceivable that them or similar customers in that vein do. Oxide business probably selects for a biased sample of such customers (the customers that don't have esoteric requirements also have public cloud options AWS/GCP/Azure to choose from).

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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post #162

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You don't need to be in business of security clearances to require air-gapping.

I wasn’t aware of that. Any particular examples?

Non trivial amounts of industrial and civil infrastructure, sometimes the air gapping is also because there's no viable connectivity more so than security reasons (or you have to assume flaky network so the system is designed to operate as separated island 99% of time - for unlikely example Chick-Fil-A has such requirements for their k8s clusters running individual restaurants.

Sometimes it's also simpler to physically air gap a system than to deal with more complex security.

Re: Oxide’s compensation model: how is it going?

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You can get most of the benefits of this without the downsides with profit-sharing The downside is 200k is not enough to compete with the silicon valley for top engineers, but enough to compete with everyone for support, designers etc The upsides are the ones they listed: getting rid of the bad incentives that yearly reviews bring, focusing people on what really matters (success of the company) With profit sharing yo…

We are far from making a profit, so that’s not an option right now.

That makes sense
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