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Re: Suno v4.5

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Aren't they still in active lawsuit with Sony etc about training on music without license? Yet still releasing new products? I guess they are hoping for the Uber outcome where they earn enough money during the illegal phase so they can pay some tiny fine and keep going.

Do most companies just stop releasing product while in legal disputes? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of that.

Re: Suno v4.5

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post #104

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I think it's more straightforward to argue it's transformative fair use.

fair use requires it be non-profit which doesnt work for suno

I don’t think that’s true. Parodies are protected as transformative fair use and plenty of them are for-profit.

Re: Suno v4.5

#113

Personally, I have little interest in typing a text prompt and getting a complete song as an output. However, I will gladly pay serious money for a tool that interactively collaborates with me in a granular, iterative process of generating, adjusting and mixing individual instruments and sections toward a finished multi-track song project. Allow users to creatively engage by providing suggested starting places in the…

Try aiva.ai

Re: Suno v4.5

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post #67

I tried Urdu. The music quality seems good but the pronunciation is wrong (e.g. slight aa sound instead of ee sound) for many simple common words and helper words. But I don't understand why its wrong. If its trained on lots of Urdu/Hindi music, no one pronounces those words like that. How does it get the a/e wrong while still singing almost correctly? It's weird.

The vowels sound subtly wrong for English on the alternative rock station, but that might just be Eddie Vedder being in the training set...

Eddies in the training set

Re: Suno v4.5

#115

The real potential of tools like Suno isn’t in cranking out radio-ready hits. It’s in creating music that doesn't have commercial incentives to exist. Case in point: Functional Music. I started using it to generate songs that reinforce emotional regulation strategies -things like grounding, breathwork, staying present. Not instructional tracks, which would be unbearable, but actual songs with lyrics that reflect actu…

Would you mind making these available to others?

Sure! I "re-mastered" my mini-album with v4.5 since that's more in the spirit of the discussion.

https://suno.com/playlist/e6c3f3d1-a746-4106-bea1-e36073d227...

Side note: It feels a little vulnerable to be sharing these. They genuinely helped me through difficult times and I wasn't really expecting anyone else to ever listen to them.

Re: Suno v4.5

#116

Personally, I have little interest in typing a text prompt and getting a complete song as an output. However, I will gladly pay serious money for a tool that interactively collaborates with me in a granular, iterative process of generating, adjusting and mixing individual instruments and sections toward a finished multi-track song project. Allow users to creatively engage by providing suggested starting places in the…

I mean there is a Cursor integration for Ableton Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXSImhfS15k Plus Ableton Live itself has a lot of generative tools these days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RNXVfo-oLc But I honestly don't see the point. The journey is the whole point when making music or any art really. AI doesn't solve a problem here. There never has been one in the first place. There is more music out ther…

There’s not one right way you art. . . Plenty of artists like Warhol and Dali used mass production and automation.

If you enjoy writing music your way, great. But I strongly disagree that it’s a mistake to enable people to approach it differently.

Re: Suno v4.5

#117

Personally, I have little interest in typing a text prompt and getting a complete song as an output. However, I will gladly pay serious money for a tool that interactively collaborates with me in a granular, iterative process of generating, adjusting and mixing individual instruments and sections toward a finished multi-track song project. Allow users to creatively engage by providing suggested starting places in the…

i'm not really into music, at all, but would easily pay $50/month to be able to have this functionality, too. even just the tools being what they are i've spent over a dozen hours playing around with it because it's so much fun. add the ability to separate parts of the tracks and select portions specifically to change and i'd use this constantly, all the time

Re: Suno v4.5

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I actually am of the exact opposite opinion. With image / text / video, I am much more able to differentiate between AI vs human. However in music - there is so much badly done human music as well, for me it's nearly impossible to understand the difference between a badly done human music and a high fidelity AI music (the chord progression, happens as often in human music). Moreover, I have put Suno AI on playlist mo…

Agreed, am a musician too, and especially for popular music, AI music is as complex and often indistinguishable from music created by humans. Kind of sad, especially for composers (which I am trying to be). Ah well, can only keep moving forward.

I’m only an occasional hobbyist, but I am super excited for how AI can empower me to write ideas I want, but which are beyond my ability and / or not possible using normal tools. I really think we’ll see a revolution in music theory once it’s easy to incorporate microtonal, multi-tempo, and other crazy stuff.

Also as we can blur the line between instrument and audio; why can’t my piano morph into an organ over the course of a piece? (I’m familiar with the Korg Morpheus and similar; I mean in a much more real sense).

Re: Suno v4.5

#119

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Because it sounds good, you can do both.

But what's the point of spending time and thought for music prompted by others? What I can generate sounds exactly as good and has the exact same value...

Can’t you say the same thing about why listen to human jazz musicians?

Re: Suno v4.5

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post #7

I can't get Suno to obey the style tags, it's as if they are not used at all in generating the output, or massively changed. Maybe they do the same trick Gemini used to generate the black queen of England. Or it's a trick to waste our credits faster, the only way to get something decent is to spin the dice many times.

v4.5 is a lot better at adherence with detailed descriptions! Still not totally adherent, but if you can steer it with genre, detailed descriptions of genre, and elements of the genre it's way better than v4. Some descriptions work better than others so there's some experimentation to figure out what works for what you're trying to achieve. You can also provide descriptions in [brackets] in the lyrics that work reaso…

Please make noise internally that the product desperately needs a tutorial and a prompting guide! It’s amazing if you hang out on Discord and spend a lot of time learning, but people just sitting down with it have no idea how to use it.
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