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So the answer is that we clearly need that car also to be a Waymo. Problem solved! Hah.
Why don’t we have cars talk to each other and coordinate their routing? Like some sort of peer to peer mechanism that helps them not crash each other. Why can’t vehicles be made to stop at cross walks when someone is crossing with some sort of communication to the vehicle?
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It's good to be skeptical of the source, but I can't remember seeing any substantive criticism of the methodology or conclusions.
Here is one, Humans drive in all weather conditions on all types of roads and also many types of personal vehicles of varying ages and conditions. Waymo is limited to few specific locations with decent roads and does not drive in poor weather and is limited to a relatively large and safer expensive SUV that is maintained professionally in a fleet. Studies like this rarely account for such factors , they are compare o…
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Yeah and we should definitely leave deciding the appropriate speed to the drivers. Because, uh, throughput is important, got it. Is safety important? Who knows, but throughput definitely is!
That is what happens now. Most drivers do not cause accidents from speed most of the time. This is a red herring.
Speed is the underlying reason accidents happen. No one is creeping at 2 MPH and just running into things, they have time to stop.
This doesn't even take into consideration that speed results in significantly larger impact (and thus damage to passengers, environment, and vehicles)
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> I used an Uber on the way here and the car was dirtier To be fair, the fact that Waymos are fancy clean Jaguars is kind of ancillary to the main technology. The tech is currently expensive, so they are targeting the luxury market, which you can also get on Uber if you select a black car or whatever. The people willing to pay for that are less likely to make messes, and the drivers put more effort into frequent clea…
A quarter of the ubers I get now absolutely reek of cigarettes. It has been mostly eastern european immigrants ridesharing as of late in my experience.
So, what’s it gonna take for Waymo to start selling retrofit kits for existing cars? If a $10,000 investment reduces the chances of a serious accident by 90%, the corresponding reduction in insurance rates might have a payoff within a few years. Especially if adoption starts to push rates up for customers who don’t automate. I can’t take a taxi everywhere, but I’d sure like it if my car drove me everywhere and did a…
They need to work everywhere. How do they do in snow/ice (humans do really bad here - but where I live it happens often enough that we often cannot stay home or we would spend weeks in the house) Don't get my wrong, I'm hoping it is soon. However they have a lot of work left.
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> I used an Uber on the way here and the car was dirtier To be fair, the fact that Waymos are fancy clean Jaguars is kind of ancillary to the main technology. The tech is currently expensive, so they are targeting the luxury market, which you can also get on Uber if you select a black car or whatever. The people willing to pay for that are less likely to make messes, and the drivers put more effort into frequent clea…
What is 1000% better about Waymo than rideshares is the liveried fleet vehicles . Regular taxis around here are also liveried fleet vehicles. Especially the very large providers: if I summon a taxi cab, I know for sure its make and model, and its paint job will clearly indicate it's on-duty as a taxi cab. You don't understand how incredibly important this is sometimes. For the simple yet panic-inducing task of strapp…
For what it's worth, I have exclusively used Waymo in SF ever since my last Uber driver was smoking weed while driving. I just don't want to deal with the human variable anymore.
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The US drives about 3.2 trillion miles per year. Waymo has 56.7 million miles over several years. Their percentage data is essentially useless. 50% of fatalities involve alcohol or drugs and are often single vehicle accidents. 25% involve youth or inexperience. 15% involve motorcycles. 15% involve pedestrians. What I really need to see is a complete breakdown of every accident a Waymo has had. Then I can start to com…
> The US drives about 3.2 trillion miles per year. Waymo has 56.7 million miles over several years. Their percentage data is essentially useless. No, that's not how statistics works. The percentage data's accuracy depends mainly on the number of incidents recorded (and somewhat on the rate of incidents). But the percentage of the whole is completely irrelevant. If you are basing something on 10 incidents but it's 50%…
size along is not enough. The sample may be biased and it certainly is in Waymo case e.g., roads/vehicle conditions.
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Here is one, Humans drive in all weather conditions on all types of roads and also many types of personal vehicles of varying ages and conditions. Waymo is limited to few specific locations with decent roads and does not drive in poor weather and is limited to a relatively large and safer expensive SUV that is maintained professionally in a fleet. Studies like this rarely account for such factors , they are compare o…
Maybe humans shouldn't drive in those conditions then.
In America driving is a economic necessity, from going to work to even the grocery shop needs cars and dependency increases inversely with affluence [1]
Mass public transit is non existent barring very few regions.
So car (for commute) and flight (for long distance) are the only two viable transit options .
People cannot choose to not work because weather is bad, and remote work / work from home applies to only some jobs.
[1] food and other service deserts are more likely less affluent neighborhoods meaning you will need to drive and for longer for food , pharmacy or any other services if you are low income .
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I watch a lot of car accident videos and I've seen that happen exactly once. Perhaps you mean the far more common scenario when the car in the next lane simply decides to merge into yours? Nothing about that is random[1] and the response in 90%+ of cases is just to let off the gas for a few seconds. That's it. [1]: In most cases, it's because your lane is open and theirs is about to be backed up. You'd want to switch…
Because all the "person doesn't look, pulls out into road, other traffic swerves around them" don't cause crashes and don't get posted to your accident feed. FFS, this is like selection bias 101.
Here's a classic example with an explanation: https://youtu.be/kTczmnkz824?t=882. No experienced driver should be surprised here.