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RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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Re: RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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Regardless of what you think of RFK, there's no good reason to think more testing of medicine is a bad thing.

Here's the 2021 flu vaccine, that'll be $500. Good news, we verified it won't turn you into a unicorn.

But people have been injured by vaccines. Testing seems reasonable.

Re: RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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Here is a fun example of a randomized controlled trial from the British Medical Journal: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft: randomized controlled trial https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k5094

That’s a solid point, I’m going to invest in some snake oil now.

Re: RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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Here's the 2021 flu vaccine, that'll be $500. Good news, we verified it won't turn you into a unicorn.

But people have been injured by vaccines. Testing seems reasonable.

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Re: RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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But people have been injured by vaccines. Testing seems reasonable.

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> no one suggested a reduction in testing

If you somehow haven't read either the article or any of the comments in this HN thread, many readers would prefer less testing than what was announced:

"none of the vaccines on the CDC's childhood recommended schedule was tested against an inert placebo, meaning we know very little about the actual risk profiles of these products"

I don't need to convince you or anyone else, my own hands, arms and legs were covered in bloody blisters a few hours after the J & J booster. Anecdotes aren’t data but the way I suggest we collect data is by: testing medicines.

Re: RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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> no one suggested a reduction in testing If you somehow haven't read either the article or any of the comments in this HN thread, many readers would prefer less testing than what was announced: "none of the vaccines on the CDC's childhood recommended schedule was tested against an inert placebo, meaning we know very little about the actual risk profiles of these products" I don't need to convince you or anyone else,…

> If you somehow haven't read either the article or any of the comments in this HN thread

Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that".

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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But people have been injured by vaccines. Testing seems reasonable.

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> I can't wait to see the youtube videos you're no doubt going to link.

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

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Re: RFK Jr. to require placebo-controlled studies for new vaccines

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They're doing exactly what they wanted to do and planned to do. To a significant extent these were the goals of the american conservative movement going back decades. This is what leadership means to the right and what it always has. Death and destruction.

I feel like it’s a very strange person that is comforted by all of this. I am super susceptible to nostalgia, but in a nerdy VHS and Afghan blanket kind of way, nothing about any of what Trump is doing makes me think of the good old days. And I long for the good old days!

  > the good old days.
probably we are not old enough to remember them (with the arguably rose-tinted glasses) as some others...
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