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Re: Suno v4.5

#11

Post by cdrini »

lucasoshiro wrote: post #10
cdrini wrote: post #8

That is a very cool UI; super fun to just hit random and find new niche genres/styles. I'd never heard of klezmer, for example, but such a nice style! I don't know if it's the music, but it's been a while since a website has put this big a grin on my face! I keep wanting to save some of the songs I hear. Damn, I don't think I would really be able to tell in a blind test that these were AI.

> That is a very cool UI; I really don't like that UI. It's hard to read, and when I found something it slips. Too much form over function > I keep wanting to save some of the songs I hear. Just click the title of the song. If you have an account you can add to favorites, download, etc.

Ah the title isn't visible on mobile for me!

Re: Suno v4.5

#12

Post by lucasoshiro »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #2

Feel they didn't really test these genres "Cajun synthpop chant" has no chanting or synths, it sounds more like country music with french woman vocals

When I try to mix genres that are too different, it chooses only one of them and ignore the others... let's see if it's better in the new version

Re: Suno v4.5

#13

Post by lucasoshiro »

cdrini wrote: post #11
lucasoshiro wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That is a very cool UI; I really don't like that UI. It's hard to read, and when I found something it slips. Too much form over function > I keep wanting to save some of the songs I hear. Just click the title of the song. If you have an account you can add to favorites, download, etc.

Ah the title isn't visible on mobile for me!

Well, I never used Suno on mobile, perhaps it's that! Here on desktop it's ok

Re: Suno v4.5

#14

Post by DataDaemon »

"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes."

Re: Suno v4.5

#15

Post by TonyTrapp »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #2

Feel they didn't really test these genres "Cajun synthpop chant" has no chanting or synths, it sounds more like country music with french woman vocals

None of the Acid House samples have anything to do with Acid House either. The Jungle samples sound more like Liquid Drum & Bass.

Re: Suno v4.5

#16

Post by XenophileJKO »

logicchains wrote: post #9
visarga wrote: post #7

I can't get Suno to obey the style tags, it's as if they are not used at all in generating the output, or massively changed. Maybe they do the same trick Gemini used to generate the black queen of England. Or it's a trick to waste our credits faster, the only way to get something decent is to spin the dice many times.

It seems to lean heavily on the lyrics when choosing the style; if you pick a style that doesn't match well with the lyrics, it'll kinda ignore it.

I'm still experimenting with what works and doesn't work. Currently for style I am trying things like:

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STYLE: Earth Circuit Fusion

INSTRUMENTATION: - Deep analog synth bass with subtle distortion - Hybrid percussion combining djembe and electronic glitches - Polytonal synth arpeggios with unpredictable patterns - Processed field recordings for atmospheric texture - Circuit-bent toys creating unexpected melodic accents

VOCAL APPROACH: - Female vocalist with rich mid-range and clear upper register - Intimate yet confident delivery with controlled vibrato - Layered whisper-singing technique in verses - Full-voiced chorus delivery with slight emotional rasp - Spoken-word elements layered under bridge melodies - Stacked fifth harmonies creating ethereal chorus quality

PRODUCTION: - Grainy tape saturation on organic elements - Juxtaposition of lo-fi and hi-fi within same sections - Strategic arrangement dropouts for dramatic impact - Glitch transition effects between sections

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One thing I have noticed with the new model is that it listens to direction in the lyrics more now, for example [whispered] or [bass drop], etc.

There are clear limits. I have been unsuccessful in spacial arrangement.

EDIT: I realized I didn't specify, this is when you do custom and you specify the lyrics and the style separately.

Re: Suno v4.5

#17

Post by progbits »

Aren't they still in active lawsuit with Sony etc about training on music without license? Yet still releasing new products?

I guess they are hoping for the Uber outcome where they earn enough money during the illegal phase so they can pay some tiny fine and keep going.

Re: Suno v4.5

#18

Post by andrewclunn »

I've been doing music composition and songwriting as a hobby for a decade. 4.0 is where Suno added enough features where workshopping things conceptually there first made it worth it, even for someone who can and often will, break apart stems into composite instruments and then manually adjust as needed. People always worry about what this means at the low effort "spray and pray" approach to music, but ultimately, it also allows for faster and cheaper iteration and development for all involved. Is the finished product ultimately "better" though? You be the judge.

For comparison, here's a song where I forced myself to do everything within Suno (took less than a week):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6mJcXxoppc

And here's one where I did the manual composition, worked with session artists, and it took a couple months and cost me several hundred dollars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5JcEnU-x3s

Re: Suno v4.5

#20

Post by arnaudsm »

The biggest impact Generative Music had on my life was for wedding skits. Families that wanted a funny song about the bride filled with anecdotes didn't need talent anymore.

The first time I heard it, it was incredible. The 2nd wedding that did it, it started to feel boring. The 3rd time, everyone hated it.

Similar to image-generation, we're getting tired really fast of cookie-cutter art. I don't know how to feel about it.

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