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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by alabastervlog » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #70

alabastervlog wrote: post #58

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As with the Project for a New American Century douchebags, they just straight-up told us the bad things they were going to do to the country, and now they're doing them, and people still manage to be all, "hey, where'd all this stuff come from?!". Our news media are terrible .

This was all widely reported, I'm not sure why you're criticizing the news media.

There is no reason at all it shouldn't have been the only thing they'd bring up when talking to or about Trump during the campaign. Instead, they let "oh, yeah, never heard of it" slide.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by santoshalper » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #89

arcbyte wrote: post #30

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I say this as a firm conservative. The courts have so far been outstanding, despite all the inappropriate pressure. I have no doubt they will continue to be. I'm also quite impressed with conservative voters who are speaking out to their conservative representatives. Ultimately though, despite many many calls not to do so, Congress has goven the executive branch unheard of powers. Executive power needs to be reigned…

The funny thing is, that the GOP is not "conservative," in any way, whatsoever. They are extreme. The definition of "conservative" means "not-extreme." It is not just "not-liberal." It means being thoughtful, cautious, sticking with the mainstream, learning from the past, not discarding learned wisdom, etc. Things like anti-abortion, hate-brown-people, put-women-back-in-the-kitchen-or-the-bedroom etc. stuff is often…

You should disabuse yourself of the notion that concepts like personal discipline, contentiousness, and integrity are somehow "conservative" values. They are not in either sense of the word conservative.

Certainly from a political standpoint, republicans (or their equivalent in other nations) have often used these concepts against women, minorities, and the mentally ill as a means of shirking their obligation to help their fellow human. In my observation, they never make much of an attempt to live up to them in their own lives. (e.g. YOU are a welfare queen, but I am an entrepreneur who needed to take a government bailout).

On the other hand, if "conservative" means "old-fashioned" to you, then there is also no reason to believe that the people before us were morally superior to us today. My reading of history leads me to believe quite the opposite.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by Workaccount2 » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

alabastervlog wrote: post #129

whodidntante wrote: post #104

I watch/listen to a variety of news sources - CNN, Fox News, NPR, NYTimes, WSj, as well as a number of smaller podcasts and substacks. There are no longer "unbiased" news sources, all sources have moved to either the left or right. I used to have respect for NPR, today it is, to me, the Fox News of the left, and no different than other sources. I do not have a problem with that, it is what it is. But it should not be…

> the Fox News of the left When I watch Fox News it's usually pretty easy to spot several things that are simply made-up per day. Including entire stories. You hear much of that on NPR? [EDIT] FWIW I think NPR news is god-awful, because they focus way too much on horse-race politics crap and Monday-morning quarterbacking campaigns, I suppose because they're so scared shitless by accusations of bias that they prefer t…

The things is that when "news" is compared, the divisions tend to be much smaller (but still definitely there).

But people don't think of NPR news and Fox News news. They think of (and what they actually pay attention to) are the opinion shows that dominate the ratings. That is where the gulf is huge and things are totally out of control.

It's much more tame in the 10 minute segments of running down headlines for the day, but people don't engage much with that anymore. Not as exciting as being told how right you are.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by alickz » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:24 PM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #89

arcbyte wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say this as a firm conservative. The courts have so far been outstanding, despite all the inappropriate pressure. I have no doubt they will continue to be. I'm also quite impressed with conservative voters who are speaking out to their conservative representatives. Ultimately though, despite many many calls not to do so, Congress has goven the executive branch unheard of powers. Executive power needs to be reigned…

The funny thing is, that the GOP is not "conservative," in any way, whatsoever. They are extreme. The definition of "conservative" means "not-extreme." It is not just "not-liberal." It means being thoughtful, cautious, sticking with the mainstream, learning from the past, not discarding learned wisdom, etc. Things like anti-abortion, hate-brown-people, put-women-back-in-the-kitchen-or-the-bedroom etc. stuff is often…

I also find the GOPs penchant for authoritarianism to be incongruent with their stated beliefs and values

The "party of small government" seems to want a bigger government than any other party before them

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ziddoap » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:24 PM UTC

throwawaymaths wrote: post #125

cyberlurker wrote: post #39

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Could you share what the courts have done? What I’ve witnessed is cowardice to hold officials accountable or in contempt for unconstitutional acts.

the scotus (and, notably, conservative lower federal judges) has ruled pretty firmly against trump on the abrego garcia case.

Notably, those rulings have been ignored so far.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by TimorousBestie » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:24 PM UTC

next_xibalba wrote: post #154

TimorousBestie wrote: post #135

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I can’t be sure but I assume they’re talking about this: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178... This is an interview with an author that NPR acknowledges as controversial, not NPR presenting the author’s opinions as fact. But I doubt the distinction matters in the current rhetorical environment.

That acknowledgement was tacked on well after publication. Even interviewing this person was an absurdity and revelatory of the kind of bias at npr. Truly insane.

> revelatory of the kind of bias at NPR

I could happily cherry-pick any of the multiple times they’ve interviewed controversial, evangelical Christian leaders and come to the opposite “revelation.”

> That acknowledgement was tacked on well after publication.

Retractions and postscripts are an accepted feature of journalism.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by agloe_dreams » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:24 PM UTC

Workaccount2 wrote: post #111

mathgeek wrote: post #9

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> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. It’s important to remember that while the President issues the orders, there are other actors behind the scenes writing them for him. They have goals that go beyond a single man considering ideological crimes.

I'm pretty sure with Trump this time around it is much less the case. In his first admin there are endless stories of the "Adults" in the room keeping him in check. This time around he was sure to only fill his cabinet with yes men, so no one could keep him reigned in.

Heh...it is so much worse than that.

Trump has no idea what he is doing, it has been very clear in interviews.

In the first admin, it was the adults in the room, the thing is, it's not yes men this time...it's the villians in the room. Trump is being handed EOs that he doesn't have a clue about.

For all the talk about P2025 and denial of any relation to it, they have done roughly 50% of the actions in the project already with more on the way. ~2/3rds of all his EOs have been in the plan. Virtually everyone related to the project is now in the admin - the head of the FCC literally wrote the 'FCC' section and boy is it an attack on everything the EFF holds dear.

I think what is notable is that it seems to have gotten more bold - the plan called for reducing USAID, not killing it for example.

And Yes, page 246, killing funding for PBS.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by kaishiro » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:24 PM UTC

next_xibalba wrote: post #67

cyberlurker wrote: post #14

Is it unusual for an executive order to claim something like this without any citation or reference? > The CPB fails to abide by these principles to the extent it subsidizes NPR and PBS. > Which viewpoints NPR and PBS promote does not matter. > What does matter is that neither entity presents a fair, accurate, or unbiased portrayal of current events to taxpaying citizens.

To wit, during the BLM riots of 2020, NPR published a piece on how looting was a legitimate form of protest. I mark that as the moment they lost both my trust and my attention. A very sad, eye opening moment for me.

What in the world are you on about? They published an interview with an author who had - admittedly - controversial takes looting. You make it sound like they were telling people to go smash windows.

It's telling that you chose not to link the actual piece: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by chii » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:25 PM UTC

lazide wrote: post #63

netsharc wrote: post #19

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The executive branch has ignored the courts a few times, basically saying "What are you going to do about it?". I feel like it has to lead to a standoff of some group with guns saying they're following the courts/defending the constitution against another group with guns saying they're following the orders of the president (just like those Nazis who were "just following orders"). I need to print t-shirts with "Is it…

One of the first orders of business was asserting the executive branch (really the white house) was the final authority for the executive branch on what a court order or court ruling ‘means’. He just has to say ‘nuh uh’, and as long as people want their jobs, that’s it.

> and as long as people want their jobs

so it comes to this, where people would have to take a stance, and it requires personal sacrifice on the part of those taking a stance. However, that is what it means to serve.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by thesuperbigfrog » Fri, May 02, 2025, 2:25 PM UTC

howard941 wrote: post #65

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

The courts aren't going to save us. No one is going to save us.

>> The courts aren't going to save us. No one is going to save us.

We must save ourselves.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." [1]

Freedom is not free.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/edmund-burke-did-...