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Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by lrei »

Comparing Bada to WP is apples to oranges. Bada is not a smartphone OS and many (most?) Bada handsets are sold at a fraction of the price of any WP handset. Symbian is a better comparison for Bada and it probably still dwarfs it in terms of market share.

As for App devs, native development for Bada is a massive headache that bears no comparison to WP, iOS or even android. From SDK bugs to Store bugs. And even when using web technologies (phonegap or pure web app), their webkit based browser isn't up to Safari/Chrome standards. Plus the low end devices have (had?) slow processors which make a lot of the fancier CSS stuff unusable.

On top of that, how many people will even know and use the bada app store?

Oh and nowhere in that mini-article is it mentioned that Bada will probably-maybe be replaced by another OS, Tizen.

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by ailon »

kayoone wrote: post #20
ailon wrote: post #9

Samsung is the biggest cellphone maker in the world and they put Bada on a lot of their phones and 95% of the owners of these phones don't know what Bada is. This makes total sense numberwise, but doesn't say anything about Bada's popularity. It's totally like Symbian was the biggest "smartphone" OS just a couple of years ago, just because Nokia was the biggest cellphone maker. Guess how many Nokia owners knew the wo…

I doubt that the majority of mainstream Android phone owners know what kind of OS they have either. Maybe more than Symbian/Bada but still...

Yeah, my daughter (13) was explaining something to her friend like:

D: there's this thing on Android too F: what's Android?? D: your phone!

Still way more of Android users know that they have an Android phone than Symbian/Bada. Actually most likely no less than iPhone users knowing the word iOS (doesn't matter that much in iOS ecosystem though).

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by fribblerz »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #19
fribblerz wrote: post #15

Yet they scraped it and moved on to Tizen[1]. While it's good that Tizen is linux based and open source, abandoning a perfectly good os(Bada)just in 2 years might not go well with it's app developers. They(devs) might think twice before developing for tizen now. Although Samsung seems to be planning to make bada open, I doubt it will get the same traction now. [1] https://www.tizen.org

Bada apps will be able to run on Samsung's version of Tizen, so Samsung is dropping Bada in a fashion similar to how Apple dropped OS9.

Oh, good to know. It will be interesting to know how they do so with Bada being rtos.

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by nagrom »

ewood wrote: post #2

Microsoft should scrap Windows Phone and buy into a joint venture with Samsung - Bada Bing!

That sounds like a good idea until the collaboration is acrimoniously torn apart in a legal battle over patents, trademarks and revenue sharing.

Then, Apple file a brief that proves conclusively that it was their idea anyway and demands $200 for every new installation of Bada. Microsoft, sensing the winds of change, retreat into enterprise-only mobile space.

Bereft of their large software partner and unwilling to pay licence fees to Apple, Samsung sell off their low-tech phone business to Facebook, who buy it for $1bn for no other reason than the price was decided by an engineer and an intern over lunch. They then shutter the OS, replacing it by FB OS that was in development for 6 weeks on phones across the third world.

The Techcrunch headline? Bada: BOOM!

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by cstejerean »

objclxt wrote: post #8
pjmlp wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany Bada phones are quite popular, you see a lot of people with Wave models.

What's totally bizarre to me is that the Wave 3 is a really nice handset on the outside. It's made of out metal and glass, rather than the somewhat cheap-feeling plastic on the Galaxy series. Why some of the hardware choices on the Wave couldn't come over to Samsung's Android range is beyond me.

I'm guessing it might be an issue of having to compromise to meet a desired price point.

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by rbanffy »

fribblerz wrote: post #15

Yet they scraped it and moved on to Tizen[1]. While it's good that Tizen is linux based and open source, abandoning a perfectly good os(Bada)just in 2 years might not go well with it's app developers. They(devs) might think twice before developing for tizen now. Although Samsung seems to be planning to make bada open, I doubt it will get the same traction now. [1] https://www.tizen.org

Bada is not a complete OS. It's an application environment that can sit on top of multiple kernels (I am quite sure a friend of mine had one with Linux - or something with version 2.6.xx but Wikipedia says no such phone ever existed). Tizen bundles a Linux kernel and looks more like a full OS.

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by colkassad »

stephen_g wrote: post #13
numo16 wrote: post #4

Microsoft would probably sell more of them if there were some decent phones on carriers besides AT&T. Last time I got a new phone, I wanted to go Windows Phone 7, but I'm sure as hell not switching to AT&T from Verizon for it.

It might help to some extent, but I think the fact that the iPhone was so successful while it was AT&T exclusive for so long proves that it's probably not the main issue.

I also wouldn't mind trying out a Windows Phone if Verizon had a decent one. You would think that Microsoft would have the cash to force the issue a little more.

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by pjmlp »

tjansen wrote: post #16
pjmlp wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Düsseldorf I do see quite a few, even among my circle of friends. But the number of iPhones and Androids outnumbers them, that is clear.

I am also in Duesseldorf and don't know a single person with a Bada phone :)

Maybe we need to visit more parts of the city. :)

Re: Samsung's Bada OS growing faster than Windows Phone

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Post by rbanffy »

lrei wrote: post #21

Comparing Bada to WP is apples to oranges. Bada is not a smartphone OS and many (most?) Bada handsets are sold at a fraction of the price of any WP handset. Symbian is a better comparison for Bada and it probably still dwarfs it in terms of market share. As for App devs, native development for Bada is a massive headache that bears no comparison to WP, iOS or even android. From SDK bugs to Store bugs. And even when us…

> Oh and nowhere in that mini-article is it mentioned that Bada will probably-maybe be replaced by another OS, Tizen.

Not much of a problem. Tizen will be able to run the Bada application layer.

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