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Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Post by slashdev »

Retric wrote: post #643
slashdev wrote: post #638

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The media is far from neutral. Almost all have a major left bias. Fox has a major right bias.

Not when you look at objective metrics of bias such as sentiment analysis or track time spent on positive vs neutral vs negative coverage of various issues. Of course that’s in relation to US political parties, pick a different ‘center’ and you can get any answer you want for how the media is biased overall. Objectively FOX isn’t pure propaganda they do include some coverage critical of R politicians and policies. It…

I can cite multiple studies showing the left bias in the media. I think it's pretty widely held to be true. I'm actually kind of taken aback that anyone would take the other side of that argument.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Post by bluGill »

nonethewiser wrote: post #649
bluGill wrote: post #440

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No because containers are in high demand overall. While the US is importing less, stuff to the EU is taking the long way around Africa and that means more containers are needed.

>While the US is importing less, stuff to the EU is taking the long way around Africa and that means more containers are needed. OK, then the unavailability of containers is actually due to piracy in the middle east. The US importing less, by itself, decreases the demand for containers.

Both of those are factors. There are other factors neither one of us knows about (even if you are in ocean transport - your competitors are doing things they are hiding from you until they happen). How they balance out is not something I know, someone in the field likely has a reasonably good idea despite not knowing everything.

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Post by dgfitz »

trhway wrote: post #537
iAMkenough wrote: post #403

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Amazon considered it as a separate line, the White House called it un-American, Amazon stopped considering it.

>the White House called it un-American If anything, what can be more American than making clear when and how much the government is taxing the people? It is like at the core of this nation’s founding.

A subtle but important point: the people aren't getting taxed, the importer is getting taxed. If the importer passes those cost increases on to their customers, that is their decision.

Of course the importer will pass the costs along, but that isn't the real point.

The real point is that it is _expected_ that the costs will be passed along to the end consumer. The whole _goal_ of a tariff is to make people not want to buy the product anymore because it isn't worth the money.

There is an uproar about these tariffs, and I get that, people hate trump and everyone who supports him, totally get that too, and when he does a thing, people are going to lose their minds about it.

The point of the tariff isn't to tax citizens, it is meant to discourage spending, so the thing isn't imported, so the country of origin loses money and whatever they were selling now has even _less value_ because there is an oversupply.

China needs somewhere to dump their slave-labor made garbage much more than US consumers need to buy it.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Post by RugnirViking »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #584
TylerE wrote: post #573

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The tariffs are based on departure not arrival date.

That's easy enough to fake. How is US customs going to know when a German company's ship registered in the Philippines left a Chinese port?

I've very briefly worked with a team that was responsible for satellites that track ships and their AIS data, including trying to identify ships spoofing AIS though various means. (It was civilian, a university group, but I'm sure states have similar and more)

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Post by Retric »

slashdev wrote: post #651
Retric wrote: post #643

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not when you look at objective metrics of bias such as sentiment analysis or track time spent on positive vs neutral vs negative coverage of various issues. Of course that’s in relation to US political parties, pick a different ‘center’ and you can get any answer you want for how the media is biased overall. Objectively FOX isn’t pure propaganda they do include some coverage critical of R politicians and policies. It…

I can cite multiple studies showing the left bias in the media. I think it's pretty widely held to be true. I'm actually kind of taken aback that anyone would take the other side of that argument.

I’m not arguing about the existence of bias or the numbers of L/R leaning media.

There’s simply more left leaning Americans vs the stance of the Republican Party who’s specifically engineered their message to appeal to voters with more political power. Ex: Losing the popular vote when winning the presidential election only happens to Republicans.

However, simply counting the number of companies leaning left or right doesn’t tell you much. A local newspaper with 5k readers just doesn’t move the needle. Neither does an outlet that’s 0.1% left or right leaning.

So the only accurate measurement is level of lean * number of viewers, and when you do that calculation (as I have) you find the overall media landscape leans Republican.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Post by slashdev »

Retric wrote: post #655
slashdev wrote: post #651

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can cite multiple studies showing the left bias in the media. I think it's pretty widely held to be true. I'm actually kind of taken aback that anyone would take the other side of that argument.

I’m not arguing about the existence of bias or the numbers of L/R leaning media. There’s simply more left leaning Americans vs the stance of the Republican Party who’s specifically engineered their message to appeal to voters with more political power. Ex: Losing the popular vote when winning the presidential election only happens to Republicans. However, simply counting the number of companies leaning left or right…

That makes some sense to me, although the result is surprising. Do have anything you can point to for further reading on the subject?

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Post by Retric »

slashdev wrote: post #656
Retric wrote: post #655

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not arguing about the existence of bias or the numbers of L/R leaning media. There’s simply more left leaning Americans vs the stance of the Republican Party who’s specifically engineered their message to appeal to voters with more political power. Ex: Losing the popular vote when winning the presidential election only happens to Republicans. However, simply counting the number of companies leaning left or right…

That makes some sense to me, although the result is surprising. Do have anything you can point to for further reading on the subject?

There’s a few investigations into why Talk Radio became such a Republican dominated market, but I don’t have a good link. They also ignored how NPR fills a similar niche and leans left. But overall I setup a spreadsheet and ran the numbers on viewership vs scores on sites like:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ Fox: FOX: 6.7, CNN -3.7, another site giving them 4 vs -2 etc.

Then used numbers from sites like https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/first-quarter-2025-cable-new...

So for most watched cable news show you get FOX 4,552k viewers vs CNN 558k viewers. Multiply and you get a rather shockingly different impact.

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Post by dmitrygr »

rchaud wrote: post #639
dmitrygr wrote: post #526

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If trade can persist in war then by definition trade will not prevent war If A -> B not A -> B then it cannot be said that B -> not A

And yet it has prevented a wider military confrontation over Taiwan, Kashmir, North Korea and continental Europe after WWII.

We do not and cannot so trivially assign a reason for the lasting peace since WWII. There are many theories in international relations that propose a cause, and none are currently accepted as being solely correct

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Post by saagarjha »

ben_w wrote: post #633
saagarjha wrote: post #630

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At this point I wonder if it's some sort of engagement farming thing. Surely someone who posts the same stupid stuff every time and gets yelled at it has a reason for doing it? Right?

Despite the ongoing problem of LLMs passing as human (and before that, https://xkcd.com/1019/ etc.), it is entirely possible they're 100% sincere. First, remember that a lot of people voted for Trump despite all thay he said in the election and all that he did last time around. What he says must resonate with a lot of people, or that would not have happened. Second, anecdotally, there's someone I used to know back in…

Oh I hope he hasn't voted, because he told me before that he thinks he shouldn't be doing so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41710224

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Post by guywithahat »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #157
guywithahat wrote: post #130

Not too long ago I tried to raise money for a PCB assembly plant in the US, but couldn't raise the funding and got a "real job". Posts like these really make me wish I didn't give up lol

This is something I am personally mixed about, working in electronics and having had boards made both domestically and in China. The thing is that China is just really damn good at electronics manufacturing. Their tooling is cutting edge, their workers are career electronics manufacturing workers, and their supply chain is insane . However I do have a feeling of "if you build it, they will come". But I think it would…

I think there are some things where a lot of the silicone actually comes from the US, or the designs are static enough that domestic manufacturing could make a lot of sense. I was specifically pitching consumer GaN power supplies, which are simple enough that you can build them without your supply chain blowing up every 3 months or without having to always get the newest and greatest machinery.

Something like a smartphone would be borderline impossible to do well in the US and keep up with trends.

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