Gladly, Valkey has other benefits besides its more permissive license compared to Redis. One of them is multi-threading support, which makes it pretty easy for someone like me—who has a bit of a skill issue with DevOps—to actually utilize all CPU cores for my caching layer.
Redis is open source again
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Re: Redis is open source again
#62Here's the play: Open source with AGPL, then offer an enterprise license. You get two wins. The OSS community applauds your adoption of an agressive OSS license. Enterprise customers can't use software under AGPL because it risks infecting their IP, so they're forced to buy an enterprise license.
Wait, AGPL is a good license for enterprise, they don’t need to buy unless they want to modify source without releasing, am I wrong about this?
Edit: Doubled checked with gpt, no cases of “infection” yet, there has also been many talks about this license being very good
Re: Redis is open source again
#63Hashtag #ThankYouValkey?
Re: Redis is open source again
#64This will be very relevant when Valkey decides to go closed source. It's better than the previous state of course, but it would have been even better if the previous license change didn't happen. As the french people say: fool me once, shame on you...
fool me can't get fooled again But in seriousness, the chances of valkey going closed source are low. It's run by Linux Foundation. It would be like suggesting that Node.js might go closed source...
They were obviously making a tongue in cheek comment instead of seriously suggesting Valkey may go proprietary.
Re: Redis is open source again
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Valkey has replaced redis in a few distros
It is a fork of the latest oss release right? I thought some completely new implementations were introduced.
It's not just a fork, there have been two releases on Valkey that improved performance and memory efficiency. There is a lie that Redis likes to spread that only their own employees were working on the core engine at the time of the fork, but most of the engineers on Valkey came directly from having worked on Redis OSS. A recent example is we modernized the hash table a bit: https://valkey.io/blog/new-hash-table/.
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#66I contributed a minor (but imho still neat :p) improvement to Redis under its original license, and personally moved to using redict when the unexpected license change to SSPL was announced - and I was feeling betrayed as a contributor to a properly-FOSS-codebase. (Had they switched to AGPL right away, I'd have been perfectly fine with that change from a moral perspective, ftr.) I have a great deal of respect for ant…
The only real reason to use non-copyleft licenses for these kinds of projects is to be able to do the rug pull, so you should have expected it instead of feeling betrayed. I imagine they will now require copyright assignment or something like that for external contributors to be able to relicense new code under a commercial license.
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#67Re: Redis is open source again
#68I'm curious whether the community will trust Redis-the-company again after this, or if they'll choose to stick with Valkey. The other concern is at least some big company legal departments are wary of AGPL software, which makes Valkey, still BSD, more attractive to them. Edit: Regardless, thank you and the rest of the folks inside Redis for pushing to bring this back to OSS!
Statistically nobody is using valkey.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I very much doubt that anyone will stick with valkey after the PaaS providers switch back to just offering Redis proper.
Why would PaaS providers switch back to offering Redis? They've clearly all already invested a lot in Valkey (AWS, GCP, Heroku).
If Redis is superior then sticking with Valkey would just be throwing good money after bad. Hopefully those companies are competent enough to understand the concept of sunk costs.
Maybe Valkey has served its purpose in pressuring Redis into playing ball.
Just answering "why would". Whether or not Redis is better then Valkey or if it would be worth it to switch back is not something I know.
Re: Redis is open source again
#70I contributed a minor (but imho still neat :p) improvement to Redis under its original license, and personally moved to using redict when the unexpected license change to SSPL was announced - and I was feeling betrayed as a contributor to a properly-FOSS-codebase. (Had they switched to AGPL right away, I'd have been perfectly fine with that change from a moral perspective, ftr.) I have a great deal of respect for ant…
I think we need to get back to state where we take software licenses serious in letter and in spirit. The transitions Redis made are pristine on a legal and moral level. Feeling betrayed is absolutely uncalled for.