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Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by Workaccount2 »

nostromo wrote: post #40
Workaccount2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't blame them, Americans on the whole fall over themselves to defend Apple. Apple is the magic entity that figured out how to send full videos and pictures in text messages. Something a google android could never figure out. Apple phones didn't come bloated with garbage. You go to the apple store for help rather than the verizon store. You are above others when you have an iPhone. Apple's external veneer is s…

I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

Those features have fat apple tax overhead and are not unique to iPhones.

That's why I talk about the veneer that users don't care to look beyond. Customers get bent by Apple and aren't even aware of it.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by Molitor5901 »

torben-friis wrote: post #7

>Internally, Phillip Schiller had advocated that Apple comply with the Injunction, but Tim Cook ignored Schiller and instead allowed Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri and his finance team to convince him otherwise. Cook chose poorly. The real evidence, detailed herein, more than meets the clear and convincing standard to find a violation. Judging by tech, apple is right now in deep water due to the failure of deli…

I think Apple has needed a change of leadership since day one of the Cook era. He may have been brilliant at logistics and putting products on shelves, but I think Apple innovation has flatlined under Cooke and if anything, the holier than thou arrogance of Apple in general has grown exponentially. Maybe it's time to breakup Apple - separate the computer and phone divisions.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by Molitor5901 »

ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #9

I hope he gets criminal charges. The amount of people who lie under oath and get away with it is unacceptable. Lets get all the politicians who lied under oath next as well.

Al Gore is still on the board.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by Molitor5901 »

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #3

Will the executive actually face an criminal charges? No they will not.

and the 9th Circuit is almost certain to overturn this. Apple is a major employer, donor, etc. that I can't see this going all the way. I hope, but I am so jaded on the courts doing anything to actually hold companies and their executives responsible that I can't help but be pessimistic.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by grogenaut »

ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #43
afavour wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really a culture war sideshow it's a "buying favor with the administration" sideshow. And it does matter, Trump is not exactly a man with a strong loyalty streak. Demonstrating fealty to him on a regular basis could absolutely result in preferable outcomes for Apple.

This is a state case. Referral for criminal charges goes to a district attorney in Northern California. Trump's DOJ could try to lean on California but no one in California has any taste for Trump and his people.

Have you been to the county of orange? San Francisco does not California make.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by cynicalpeace »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #28

My biggest takeaway out of this is Jim Jordan in the Senate trying to sneak through antitrust weakening. From the "free market" party from a senator with at least some shame on the red aisle. It really is open season for buying politicians.

Correct, but as the article states, it was the MAGA side that laid into him and made him pull it.

Steve Bannon has said many times he would've kept Lina Khan.

The populists are socially conservative but economically liberal in many respects (not all, obviously)

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by jobs_throwaway »

nostromo wrote: post #40
Workaccount2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't blame them, Americans on the whole fall over themselves to defend Apple. Apple is the magic entity that figured out how to send full videos and pictures in text messages. Something a google android could never figure out. Apple phones didn't come bloated with garbage. You go to the apple store for help rather than the verizon store. You are above others when you have an iPhone. Apple's external veneer is s…

I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

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Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by jobs_throwaway »

mperham wrote: post #49
nostromo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

None of that requires a 30% cut.

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Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by ujkhsjkdhf234 »

grogenaut wrote: post #55
ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a state case. Referral for criminal charges goes to a district attorney in Northern California. Trump's DOJ could try to lean on California but no one in California has any taste for Trump and his people.

Have you been to the county of orange? San Francisco does not California make.

I live in California. I know how red parts of the state are.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by jobs_throwaway »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #37
torben-friis wrote: post #7

>Internally, Phillip Schiller had advocated that Apple comply with the Injunction, but Tim Cook ignored Schiller and instead allowed Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri and his finance team to convince him otherwise. Cook chose poorly. The real evidence, detailed herein, more than meets the clear and convincing standard to find a violation. Judging by tech, apple is right now in deep water due to the failure of deli…

A change of leadership? This is clear, obvious, undenied evidence of Tim Cook committing a criminal act. This is a crime . A coordinated, intentional, well-informed crime made in malice! He should go to jail!

100%. For any regular citizen this would obviously lead to jail time. Being Tim Cook shouldn't change that.
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