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Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by sgarland »

fnordsensei wrote: post #216
rafaelmn wrote: post #187

At this point I view Windows as a legacy/compatibility OS, all the news about Windows is how they are making it worse for everyone. And using it now and then it feels like that too. Windows 10 Mail app had integration with system calendar, you would get itsycal built into the OS. Windows 11 removed that and made the OS Mail app spam infested shit, and they expect me to pay a subscription for something that comes bund…

I was disappointed that I had to upgrade to Steam Launcher 11, since it provided no benefits in launching Steam over Steam Launcher 10, or 7.

How dare you – Steam Launcher 11 makes a pleasant sound upon login, harkening back to its forebears, CD-ROM Launcher 95 and 98.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by commoner »

rafaelmn wrote: post #253
PuppetSoup wrote: post #221

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> Linux desktop is getting better but I still wouldn't daily drive it, I'm genuinely interested what Linux is missing for you? I've been daily driving it for years and do all my work and gaming on it. Is it specific software or?

It's just general polish. Like I was daily driving fedora last year and : - fractional scaling did not work in Gnome with Wayland for X11 Apps - I still cannot use my LG C4 as a monitor in full capacity because AMD on Linux does not support HDMI 2.1 - Screen sharing was very buggy - in Slack especially - it would constantly crash the slack app during calls, ditto for camera, but even in Google meet and Chrome I've ha…

> When I switched to KDE/Plasma 5 to get fractional scaling it was extremely unstable

KDE Plasma 6 made major improvements and has excellent fractional scaling, the best I've seen in a Linux desktop environment and comparable to scaling in Windows 10-11. I encourage you to give it a try.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by pjmlp »

johnisgood wrote: post #272
pjmlp wrote: post #171

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https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/General/148

> LibreOffice can be set to open on Windows startup So, Windows only, and "can be set", probably not the default?

The installer enables it by default unless you go through custom installation.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by ptx »

Ferret7446 wrote: post #83
486sx33 wrote: post #81

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Google workspace is awful , it’s super dooper awful with Gemini shoved up my ass all the time , which is impossible to disable, and trains on all my data. Gsuite makes office look good !!

The workspace admins can disable Gemini, among many other things. Google also does not "steal" your data if you read the ToS; any training is strictly scoped to that workspace. If you thought for a few seconds, you would realize that companies with big legal teams would not sign a contract that would give Google the right to their data.

> any training is strictly scoped to that workspace

Are they really doing training separately for each workspace? I thought LLM training was enormously expensive and needed lots of data, which wouldn't make sense to do separately.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by LtWorf »

bigfatkitten wrote: post #255
rafaelmn wrote: post #187

At this point I view Windows as a legacy/compatibility OS, all the news about Windows is how they are making it worse for everyone. And using it now and then it feels like that too. Windows 10 Mail app had integration with system calendar, you would get itsycal built into the OS. Windows 11 removed that and made the OS Mail app spam infested shit, and they expect me to pay a subscription for something that comes bund…

I really want to like GNOME, but GNOME's developers have almost as much arrogance and contempt for their users as Microsoft. As an example, the power button can no longer be configured to power off the machine, because this is "too destructive". I'm not talking about defaults -- they removed the ability for me to make this choice for myself. Not even Microsoft has done that. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id…

Try plasma.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by bnolsen »

ohgr wrote: post #352
skissane wrote: post #278

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Our 12 year old recently switched from Windows to Ubuntu… and now I’m constantly getting these complaints “I can’t get screen capture to work under Wayland… I switched from lightdm to sddm and I can’t work out how to switch back… I accidentally started an i3 session and I can’t work out how to log out of it.” It makes me kind of miss Windows, in a way. It is good he’s learning so much. But the downside is Linux gives…

My Linux desktop experience... I started with Linux installing it from floppy disks in about 1996. In 1995, I was back on Windows 95 within a week because I needed to get something done. In 2000, I was back on Windows 2000 within a week because I needed to get something done. In 2005, I was back on Windows XP within a week because I needed to get something done. In 2012, I was back on Windows 7 within a week because…

My experience is the opposite. Epgot a hold of a bunch of floppies in 1991. Dual booted so I could play Diablo. Some time around '98/99 got tired of dual booting.

Steam getting proton was a godsend, all those years of games became playable so now I have a huge back catalog.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by sgarland »

graemep wrote: post #249
marcusb wrote: post #246

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Games? A good portion of the Steam catalog runs just fine on Linux.

But not all of it, so if you want to play a particular game you might be out of luck.

Codeweavers Crossover does an admirable job at filling the gap (shoutout for making AoE II run like it’s native), but yeah, there are some that you can’t get around using Windows for.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by bnolsen »

wafflemaker wrote: post #311
pyr0hu wrote: post #259

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Anti-cheats are not really compatible on Linux IIRC. Maybe there have been improvements on this front but I think this was the main issue for a lot of gamers. This and there were cases when they were getting banned for playing through Wine. I once tried to set up a GPU passthrough setup to a Windows VM to play WoW but there were a ton of report that Blizzard just banned players for using QEMU VMs because they were ma…

Could some game programmer say if it's true that kernel level anti cheat is just bad programming? Primagean recently said that in a video commenting PewDiePie's "I switched to Linux" video. While he's apparently a good programmer (he worked at Netflix), he uses Vim, so I don't trust him. Edit: part about vim is an edgy joke.

The opposite is true. He uses vim therefore I trust him.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by wltr »

graemep wrote: post #229
worldsayshi wrote: post #203

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What is really missing for Linux desktop nowadays? Still drivers? And I guess office software and gui configurability.

Mostly games and photoshop. Libre Office is more than sufficient for most people. > gui configurability A bit confused by that. Linux desktop environments tend to be more configurable, and you can configure most things end users want to configure in a GUI with the major DEs. Do you mean the sysadmins cannot configure as much in a GUI? I think that probably is a major barrier as it means a lot of retraining. Also, whe…

What you mean by sysadmin GUI things? Linux is so much simpler, you don’t need any GUI to configure it. And probably there’s no point in that. Actually, there is a way to configure it using code (see Ansible), which is better (I’d say).

I believe this way of configuring is much more efficient. Yes, you have to learn some new things, probably even new paradigm. But once you done, it stays mostly the same for long years, and is dead simple. I am, being Linux user for circa 15 years, see administrating Windows with dread. And most Windows sysadmins I know personally, when I tell them about Linux, and they react like it’s some hidden obscure knowledge they have to spend ten years studying it. Which is vice-versa actually. I cannot imagine what that is, to be a Windows sysadmin, especially supporting all this mediocre engineering.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Post by EdwardDiego »

bigfatkitten wrote: post #255
rafaelmn wrote: post #187

At this point I view Windows as a legacy/compatibility OS, all the news about Windows is how they are making it worse for everyone. And using it now and then it feels like that too. Windows 10 Mail app had integration with system calendar, you would get itsycal built into the OS. Windows 11 removed that and made the OS Mail app spam infested shit, and they expect me to pay a subscription for something that comes bund…

I really want to like GNOME, but GNOME's developers have almost as much arrogance and contempt for their users as Microsoft. As an example, the power button can no longer be configured to power off the machine, because this is "too destructive". I'm not talking about defaults -- they removed the ability for me to make this choice for myself. Not even Microsoft has done that. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id…

Oh wow, that Nocera is great, correcting spellings to be passive-aggressive.

> Review of attachment 312719 [details] [review]:

>> gsd

> gnome-settings-daemon.

>> no-longer

> Don't think that's in the OED

>> gsd no-longer facilitates users overriding power key actions

> And include references about when this happened.

>> This is rather unfriendly and considerably more effort than editing logind.conf

> I don't like the tone in this sentence.

So helpful.

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