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Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Windows 10LTSC gets updates till 2030 something.

Office 2016 is the last year before it went OneDrive and will still autosave documents locally.

Apparently there are activation scripts that can help you if you’ve lost your license information for these older products…

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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post #171

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I don't see any LibreOffice related processes on my Debian machine, but I have it installed. Does it do that on Windows only, or distros disable this by default?

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/General/148

> LibreOffice can be set to open on Windows startup

So, Windows only, and "can be set", probably not the default?

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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post #110

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I use LibreOffice for 99% of documents completely fine, and generate my own documents via Pandoc. The setup has served me really well so far.

I do this too, however there is considerable formatting issues when you're working collaboratively on documents with other people who use MS Office.

True, I had a large contract recently with this issue, but it worked out in the end.

The problem is that we thought "let's switch to the online MS Word editor", which then proceeds to delete your text as you write [1]. Bare in mind that my company pays an Office subscription per employee for that crap.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/11be6wd/firefox_...

[2] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/how-c...

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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At this point I view Windows as a legacy/compatibility OS, all the news about Windows is how they are making it worse for everyone. And using it now and then it feels like that too. Windows 10 Mail app had integration with system calendar, you would get itsycal built into the OS. Windows 11 removed that and made the OS Mail app spam infested shit, and they expect me to pay a subscription for something that comes bund…

Microsoft at least sees the writing on the wall... Microsoft announces new European digital commitments https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2025/04/30/europea...

"We will continue to protect the privacy of European data."

Our data is up for grabs since at least 2018[0]. There is no privacy.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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At this point I view Windows as a legacy/compatibility OS, all the news about Windows is how they are making it worse for everyone. And using it now and then it feels like that too. Windows 10 Mail app had integration with system calendar, you would get itsycal built into the OS. Windows 11 removed that and made the OS Mail app spam infested shit, and they expect me to pay a subscription for something that comes bund…

> Linux desktop is getting better but I still wouldn't daily drive it, I'm genuinely interested what Linux is missing for you? I've been daily driving it for years and do all my work and gaming on it. Is it specific software or?

I am extremely experienced with Linux. Every single one of my servers is running RHEL/Rocky. I daily drove Linux back in the early 2000s. I have spent more time in sysctl.conf testing tunables than I have spent with my family, so it seems.

1. My capture card doesn't work reliably in any distro. I'm not a gamer so I can't use a cheap and ubiquitous USB V4L card, I capture retro computing screens at weird resolutions and refresh rates so I have to use an enterprise-grade solution that can handle strange things like sync-on-green from 13w3 connectors and extremely rare outputs from UNIX workstations from the 80s and 90s.

2. If someone sends me a link on my phone it is difficult to copy and paste it to a Linux system.

3. Battery life on laptops, despite decades of improvements, is atrocious on Linux. If my laptop gets twelve hours of real-world use under OS A and six hours under OS B, I've got to use OS A.

4. All of my screens are 4K. Today, in 2025, a full decade after 4K became standard, the way various DE/WMs handle scaling is embarrassing.

5. Nvidia. Yeah, it "works" for about 2-3 kernel upgrades then you're greeted with a blinking cursor upon boot because of DKMS or some random reason like patching the system and not rebooting for a couple of days and then patching again.

6. There's little consistency across devices. When I log in to system A I want every single icon, file, and application to be the same as system B. iCloud/Onedrive do this. You can do this on Linux while on a LAN with remote home folders. I don't work exclusively on a LAN. Or I can set up puppet/ansible for my non-infrastructure systems and that makes me throw up in my mouth.

Almost none of that is the fault of the kernel. That's irrelevant.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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At this point I view Windows as a legacy/compatibility OS, all the news about Windows is how they are making it worse for everyone. And using it now and then it feels like that too. Windows 10 Mail app had integration with system calendar, you would get itsycal built into the OS. Windows 11 removed that and made the OS Mail app spam infested shit, and they expect me to pay a subscription for something that comes bund…

> Linux desktop is getting better but I still wouldn't daily drive it, I'm genuinely interested what Linux is missing for you? I've been daily driving it for years and do all my work and gaming on it. Is it specific software or?

Same here. Linux has been my daily driver for over twenty years now, at home and at work. (Not a gamer though.)

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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They might as well load the rest of Windows at startup if that is the magic bullet of how many performance issues their OS and software has. It still shocks me that my cheap 8-year old laptop with Fedora on it feels all around snappier and a relief to work with than the computer handed to me at work. That computer would fly with a decent operating system.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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At this point I view Windows as a legacy/compatibility OS, all the news about Windows is how they are making it worse for everyone. And using it now and then it feels like that too. Windows 10 Mail app had integration with system calendar, you would get itsycal built into the OS. Windows 11 removed that and made the OS Mail app spam infested shit, and they expect me to pay a subscription for something that comes bund…

> Linux desktop is getting better but I still wouldn't daily drive it, I'm genuinely interested what Linux is missing for you? I've been daily driving it for years and do all my work and gaming on it. Is it specific software or?

Our 12 year old recently switched from Windows to Ubuntu…

and now I’m constantly getting these complaints “I can’t get screen capture to work under Wayland… I switched from lightdm to sddm and I can’t work out how to switch back… I accidentally started an i3 session and I can’t work out how to log out of it.”

It makes me kind of miss Windows, in a way. It is good he’s learning so much. But the downside is Linux gives him lots more ways to break things and then ask me to fix them for him. And a lot of this stuff I then have to learn myself before I can fix it, because most of my Linux experience is with using it as a server OS, where desktop environments aren’t even installed

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Over the next 6 months I need to decide on the platform we roll out for our small startup. Windows is categorically left out. Funnily, it is probably going to be Valve that will be the death of Windows. All my Steam games runs better on Bazzite / Steam OS without any Windows interruption. At some point, this will spread like a wild fire in the gamin community - teaching people about alternatives to Windows. The next…

I’ve been hearing some variation of this my entire adult life and it hasn’t been right yet.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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post #218

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What? This is what lobbying is. Intuit TurboTax. Realpage. Then entire insurance industry. TSA easy check or whatever it’s called. Fully fabricated problems with fabricated solutions often becoming legally required to be purchased to avoid the problem they cause in the first place.

> Then entire insurance industry. Could you elaborate? How does the insurance industry create problems like bad weather and misfortune?

Car theft is on the rise. Rather than investigate or cooperate with police or policies they can just pay out the loss and lobby against crime reduction in a variety of ways. Then, because they paid a loss they can raise that persons amount they pay due to a rising “risk.” Then everybody’s rates can rise because of this problem.

The larger the cost, the bigger total cash value they can get on their percentage based profit.

Playing into the cost, they can cut deals with manufacturers directly or in lobbying for parts to be artificially inflated to make this problem even worse. Plastic fuel valve maybe costs 30 cents to manufacture but is sold for $900 and that price is doubled to install it. And the car isn’t safe to drive without it so insurance can demand you pay up or deny all coverage or payouts.

Same for medical inflation though that’s more commonly discussed.

If insurance didn’t exist as a service then these inflated prices would be dramatically cut down. We see this when you don’t use insurance at a doctors office or pharmacy checkout. Though insurance can sometimes demand insurance be used regardless of your consent simply if the cashier is aware they have insurance.

Lobbying and passively steering the direction into bloating end users cost is massively incentivized wherever possible for insurance. Then hiding behind a veil of blame to avoid accountability or even just fair payouts when you actually need them.

It’s like insurance is the IRS who runs a casino and they threaten you if you win the jackpot and then threaten to “randomly” select you for audit if you proceed to cash out for the full amount instead of a $25 Red Robin gift card.

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