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Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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I still can't believe how slow MS Word is to load a .docx document of about 150 pages of text, you can watch the page count in the status bar grow over a period of 10 seconds or more as it loads/paginates it. On the plus side, it's nostalgic and reminds me of the old MS Word 6 on Windows 95 (or Windows 3.1?) so that's nice.l

Try reading a 40+ page document with track changes enabled (and 100+ changes) - it pins a full CPU core for 5 seconds when you go to the next page!

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Ah, the oldest trick in the book. Luckily, I'm sure that no on else will think to try this trick, and Windows will continue to load quickly.

I think Adobe PDF reader loaded incredibly slowly and they used a preloader

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Between Office's increasingly bloated size, slow booting and super annoying CoPilot icon right where I'm working (which still can't be turned off in OneNote) - I'm on the edge of dumping Office. I pretty much only use OneNote and a little OneDrive (3% of the included storage plan) to sync files between machines and I run Word and Powerpoint less than a dozen times a year combined. Even as a paying customer, all the O…

You’ll be back. LibreOffice is so visually gross it’s pretty hard to use.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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How? Any other office suite or program could do the same thing.

Related, long ago I replaced the windows shell with hl.exe, so my computer booted straight into Half Life rather than explorer. With my one core system, it was a noticeable improvement.

Lots of people keep a windows machine around for that one game that doesn't run on linux. Might make a come back!

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Why on startup? Windows startup is already so painfully slow, especially compared to Apple silicon machines, and adding Office to it would only compound this problem. I think this problem can be avoided, while also still helping pre-load Office, if Windows just detects when resource utilization is low and loads Office in the background then.

I disagree, my Windows machine loads into the OS quicker from login than my Mac.

I don’t like Windows. And it is baffling to me that startup speed is a figure-of-merit nowadays given how absurdly fast drives have gotten.

With those caveats aside, I must unfortunately acknowledge that Windows startup is perfectly fine (Linux is faster, but again this competition is pointless. Unless you are some compute infrastructure supplier and need to boot a million VMs a day or whatever).

Sometimes when people post with baffling Windows performance problems, it is because their experience comes from corporate laptops with some mandatory spyware from IT.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Why on startup? Windows startup is already so painfully slow, especially compared to Apple silicon machines, and adding Office to it would only compound this problem. I think this problem can be avoided, while also still helping pre-load Office, if Windows just detects when resource utilization is low and loads Office in the background then.

I disagree, my Windows machine loads into the OS quicker from login than my Mac.

I think the way macOS and Windows loads stuff after login is a bit different though.

Since most macOS installations use FileVault by default, the login screen looks like it loads only stuff related to the login screen and not anything from the OS. Windows on the other hand, seems to load more stuff in the spinning thingy screen that appears before the login screen.

For instance, if you disable Filevault on macOS, the OS seems to load before the login screen, and then when you input your login and password, it loads to the desktop instantly. That would be a better comparison to a Windows machine, I think.

That said, I am not sure if this is how things really works, but that's how it looks like to work for me. Sorry if I spread any misinformation here :)

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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For all the ESG virtue signaling that Microsoft does, you’d think they’d be concerned about the climate impact of this and why their applications are so inefficient.

There's an old quote about "why would I pay to have the code written more efficiently when processors are constantly getting faster and harddrives are constantly getting bigger?" that always comes to mind about MS software. I don't know the validity of that quote to be any more accurate than the 640k memory one, but it always just had the feel of authenticity by everything you see as circumstantial evidence

It feels like they’ve always taken the approach: “Why rewrite anything when we can just add more virtualization?” In the short term, that might help ensure compatibility with older versions with minimal testing. But after 40-something years, it’s clear that it’s become a mountain of technical debt—one that Microsoft has no real plans to tackle any time soon.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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I disagree, my Windows machine loads into the OS quicker from login than my Mac.

I'm actually not sure why so many people are saying it's slow. For me login screen pops up maybe a few seconds from the bios, then everything is fully loaded after I enter my password.

Because.. it’s slow. My team used to do VDI engineering. We could reduce boot times by 30% with optimized and tweaked out configurations, but it was still slower than my out of the box MacBook Air.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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That's is not a new idea. I think Office 97 had an accelerated startup that made windows take a little longer the boot but faster the start office.

Back in 1997, most developers would show a 'splash screen' as their application loaded, because of course it takes time for applications to load.

Now we have web apps that show spinners and throbbers, sometimes forever.
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