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Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

#34

Fucken genius. Fix the problem? No way, Jose; We’ll move the problem somewhere else. I would like to know how we got to a place where any application taking more than 0.5 seconds to start is acceptable in any way . I have text editors which have visible input lag, even to my untrained eye. How in the HELL does that even happen? All of you hustlers out there making story cards and calculating velocity: stop doing this…

I moved to Linux and use real editors. Problem solved! /jk

Jokes aside, I did buy a 2019 dell latitude laptop, and it's an old CPU, but it's still amazed me how well it's working. The iGPU is aweful for anything 3d heavy (Gnome's compositor), but still good for anything else.

I also have an MBA and it's quite fast, but all those "you should do this the Apple way" is frustrating.

After a long look at my computing activities, I do not need much other than Emacs, Librewolf, and a video player. I still use the MBA for rare usage like Balsamiq and important video calls.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

#35
post #2

For all the ESG virtue signaling that Microsoft does, you’d think they’d be concerned about the climate impact of this and why their applications are so inefficient.

The real impact is in Microsoft making people throw away perfectly good computers by ending Windows 10 support.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

#36
MSO defaults to "load at startup". LibreOffice will if you let it (there is a small difference in propriety here).

The worst offender by far is Outlook (which isn't really MSO but looks like it is, or is it?)

Against an on prem Exchange, I get way better performance from Evolution (Linux) than Outlook (Windows).

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, my Windows machine loads into the OS quicker from login than my Mac.

I'm actually not sure why so many people are saying it's slow. For me login screen pops up maybe a few seconds from the bios, then everything is fully loaded after I enter my password.

If you measured with a stop watch I'm sure it would take more than 2 seconds but to be accurate it is perceptibly brief whereas others startup is perceptibly to them slow. Why?

When fast startup is enabled shutting down does a reboot and then a hibernate so that it can wake up from hibernate when you start up but with the same effect as a fresh start. This is generally much faster than a full startup. This should and in many cases must be disabled to dual boot another OS.

Different hardware takes longer to initialize which may delay startup. This is especially true of failing hardware which may whilst in bad shape continue to work after a fashion but take far longer to initialize.

Some hardware is MUCH slower than others.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

#38

That's is not a new idea. I think Office 97 had an accelerated startup that made windows take a little longer the boot but faster the start office.

Back in 1997, most developers would show a 'splash screen' as their application loaded, because of course it takes time for applications to load.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

#39
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I still can't believe how slow MS Word is to load a .docx document of about 150 pages of text, you can watch the page count in the status bar grow over a period of 10 seconds or more as it loads/paginates it. On the plus side, it's nostalgic and reminds me of the old MS Word 6 on Windows 95 (or Windows 3.1?) so that's nice.l

I often wish Word from around 2000 back. Back then the software was straightforward and did what it was supposed to do without much fuzz. And the speed on modern hardware would be crazy.

The latest Word version does all kinds of weird stuff around formatting and numbering. I often get documents with messed up heading numbers or lists and I have no idea how to fix them. Nothing works.

Re: Office is too slow, so Microsoft is making it load at Windows startup

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I'm more surprised that this is news than anything else. If you had asked me a minute ago, I could have sworn it's already a well known fact that they do this. They've been doing it since Windows 95 and explorer. At least.

What exactly does this mean given I definitely sit there staring at a loading / app launch screen when opening Excel if the app isn’t already opened. If it’s opened already, opening another file is much much faster.
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