Minor nit. Compound pinyin words shouldn’t use StudlyCaps so it should be “Lujiazui”
Zhaoxin's KX-7000
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#12What's the deal with the municipal government being a partner in this project? Is that structure common in china? Is it just them giving VIA tax breaks and things, or are they more involved than that?
Yeah it is pretty common. Governments invest in key area corporations to provide fund, tax breaks, regulatory aid and a bunch of other benefits, and sometimes sell its chunk of shares in a few years.
One early example is Chongqing government with Huang Qifan as mayor back in the 2010s.
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#13Hmmm.. it maybe free from IME! Maybe the FSF want a word with them.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do governments allow some of their employees to be highly compensated relative to others? Would someone with real expertise in chip development work for the government at what the government is willing to pay? I think the answer is no.
The Chinese government has definitely "bought back" some top talent from the US. It's probably a small number of people. I'm not sure why local governments would get involved although in general China has had a problem with too much investment and not enough places for it to go. It's not impossible that there are essentially local sovereign wealth funds.
They work at companies or universities, and there is a "market" to look to for the pay scale.
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#15What's the deal with the municipal government being a partner in this project? Is that structure common in china? Is it just them giving VIA tax breaks and things, or are they more involved than that?
Yeah. They know the chips aren’t commercially competitive so they just create artificial demand by making gov and state controlled entities buy it. Basically an attempt to bootstrap an industry brute force style
Seems like it depends on the price point. These chips might be slow by modern standards, but if they're cheap enough then it doesn't really matter for a lot of the potential applications. I'm typing this post on a chip that is roughly in that performance bracket (an i5-3750k) that only rarely feels like the bottleneck. And this is my gaming machine.
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#16Hmmm.. it maybe free from IME! Maybe the FSF want a word with them.
No IME but whatever unknown chinese rootkit? Out of the frying pan, into the fire
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. They know the chips aren’t commercially competitive so they just create artificial demand by making gov and state controlled entities buy it. Basically an attempt to bootstrap an industry brute force style
Seems like it depends on the price point. These chips might be slow by modern standards, but if they're cheap enough then it doesn't really matter for a lot of the potential applications. I'm typing this post on a chip that is roughly in that performance bracket (an i5-3750k) that only rarely feels like the bottleneck. And this is my gaming machine.
Plus the vast majority of work computers don’t need to be particularly fast. Add a lightweight Linux distro, and that’s more than enough for paperwork.
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#18What's the deal with the municipal government being a partner in this project? Is that structure common in china? Is it just them giving VIA tax breaks and things, or are they more involved than that?
Do governments allow some of their employees to be highly compensated relative to others? Would someone with real expertise in chip development work for the government at what the government is willing to pay? I think the answer is no.
This initiative seems to be a private company propped up by government funds rather than direct government employment. Think Lockheed Martin not DARPA.
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#19Note there are competent RISC-V architectures in China which might already be faster at emulating x86 than the KX-7000 is at running it directly.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. They know the chips aren’t commercially competitive so they just create artificial demand by making gov and state controlled entities buy it. Basically an attempt to bootstrap an industry brute force style
Seems like it depends on the price point. These chips might be slow by modern standards, but if they're cheap enough then it doesn't really matter for a lot of the potential applications. I'm typing this post on a chip that is roughly in that performance bracket (an i5-3750k) that only rarely feels like the bottleneck. And this is my gaming machine.
I'm running a well-optimized 2014 Haswell I5-4590 system with a Radeon 7800 XT in my virtual pinball cabinet. It's handling real-time 3D at 1440p 120fps at medium-high settings and VPX is pretty CPU heavy. My system is probably only a generation or two ahead of the one described (although it's true that Haswell was one of those occasional Intel generations that became legendary for outperforming and generally aging very well).