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Re: Xiaomi MiMo Reasoning Model

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Post by jsheard »

cruzcampo wrote: post #22
wg0 wrote: post #20

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But who will keep them updated and what incentive they would have? That's I can't imagine. Bit vague.

Who keeps open source projects maintained and what incentive do they have?

Most open source projects don't need the kinds of resources that ML development does. Access to huge GPU clusters is the obvious one, but it's easy to forget that the big players are also using huge amounts of soulcrushing human labor for data acquisition, cleaning, labeling and fine tuning, and begrudgingly paying for data they can't scrape. People coding in their free time won't get very far without that supporting infrastructure.

I think ML is more akin to open source hardware, in the sense that even when there are people with the relevent skills willing to donate their time for free, the cost of actually realizing their ideas is still so high that it's rarely feasible to keep up with commercial projects.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo Reasoning Model

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Post by cruzcampo »

jsheard wrote: post #31
cruzcampo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who keeps open source projects maintained and what incentive do they have?

Most open source projects don't need the kinds of resources that ML development does. Access to huge GPU clusters is the obvious one, but it's easy to forget that the big players are also using huge amounts of soulcrushing human labor for data acquisition, cleaning, labeling and fine tuning, and begrudgingly paying for data they can't scrape. People coding in their free time won't get very far without that supporting…

That's a fair point. I think GPU clusters are the big one, the rest sounds like a good fit for volunteer work.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo Reasoning Model

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Post by estsauver »

nickip wrote: post #24
strangescript wrote: post #11

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The smaller models have been creeping upward. They don't make headlines because they aren't leapfrogging the mainline models from the big companies, but they are all very capable. I loaded up a random 12B model on ollama the other day and couldn't believe how good it competent it seemed and how fast it was given the machine I was on. A year or so ago, that would have not been the case.

What model? I have been using api's mostly since ollama was too slow for me.

Qwen3 and some of the smaller gemma's are pretty good and fast. I have a gist with my benchmark #'s here on my m4 pro max (with a whole ton of ram, but most small models will fit on a well spec'ed dev mac.)

https://gist.github.com/estsauver/a70c929398479f3166f3d69bce...

Re: Xiaomi MiMo Reasoning Model

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Post by keepamovin »

kzz102 wrote: post #38
cruzcampo wrote: post #21

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Does Xiaomi literally mean Little Rice? That's what my very limited mandarin would suggest

Xiaomi can also mean millet. I think it's a reference to this Mao quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millet_plus_rifles?wprov=sfla1

Wow, that's interesting. I guess that's like a US company being called "MRE". We would view that like a veteran's owned and operated company. Interesting.

And all the products would be "MRE-Phone", "MRE-Pod", hehehe :)

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