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One of the biggest tells.
For us habitual users of em-dashes, it is saddening to have to think twice about using them lest someone think we are using an LLM to write…
Sycophancy in GPT-4o
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Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok, and only some dedicated subset of fans are advocating for it. Meanwhile even my 97 year old grandfather heard about ChatGPT.
This. Only on HN does ChatGPT somehow fear losing customers to Grok. Until Grok works out how to market to my mother, or at least make my mother aware that it exists, taking ChatGPT customers ain't happening.
> As of early 2025, X (formerly Twitter) has approximately 586 million active monthly users. The platform continues to grow, with a significant portion of its user base located in the United States and Japan.
Whatever portion of those is active are surely aware of Grok.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Only on HN does ChatGPT somehow fear losing customers to Grok. Until Grok works out how to market to my mother, or at least make my mother aware that it exists, taking ChatGPT customers ain't happening.
From another AI (whatever DuckDuckGo is using): > As of early 2025, X (formerly Twitter) has approximately 586 million active monthly users. The platform continues to grow, with a significant portion of its user base located in the United States and Japan. Whatever portion of those is active are surely aware of Grok.
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#195I’d be one thing if it saved that “praise” (I don’t need an LLM to praise me, I’m looking for the opposite) for when I did ask a good question but even “can you tell me about that?” (<- literally my response) would be met with “Ooh! Great question!”. No, just no.
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#196I enjoyed this example of sycophancy from Reddit: New ChatGPT just told me my literal "shit on a stick" business idea is genius and I should drop $30K to make it real https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1k920cg/new_chatgp... Here's the prompt: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1k920cg/comment/mp...
i'm surprised by the lack of sycophancy in o3 https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....
Kinda points to people at OpenAI using o1/o3/o4 almost exclusively.
That's why nobody noticed how cringe 4o has become
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#198I gave it a script that does some calculations based on some data. I asked what are the bottleneck/s in this code and it started by saying
"Good code, Now you are thinking like a real scientist"
And to be honest I felt something between flattered and offended.
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#200In my experience, LLMs have always had a tendency towards sycophancy - it seems to be a fundamental weakness of training on human preference. This recent release just hit a breaking point where popular perception started taking note of just how bad it had become. My concern is that misalignment like this (or intentional mal-alignment) is inevitably going to happen again, and it might be more harmful and more subtle n…
The very early ones (maybe GPT 3.0?) sure didn't. You'd show them they were wrong, and they'd say something that implied that OK maybe you were right, but they weren't so sure; or that their original mistake was your fault somehow.