always wanted this, FINALLY. Moving from Arc to Zen, this was the biggest drawback I felt, and now, I'm just waiting for the merge!
Only thing holding me back from moving from Arc to Zen is syncing.
Firefox tab groups are here
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#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sideberry is still better since it's hierarchical, so tabs are nested. But maybe the tab groups change that? Now or in a future iteration?
Yeah vertical tabs with tab groups have replaced Sidebery's hierarchy and panels for me. Mostly because it feels slightly smoother and more performant as a built-in feature.
Sidebery is awesome but afaik it doesn't seem that it syncs the state of your tabs across browsers. TabStash is not as visually polished but it achieves that capability by using Firefox bookmarks for the tabs and groups.
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#373I have no idea why people need 500 tabs open. Like dude I never go beyond 12 tabs on my machine like ever. Aren't you too distracted if you have that many tabs open. Perhaps you should complete the task in some of the tabs and close em?
Perhaps you should let different people have different workflows?
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#374Wow, this is a fantastic feature that was heavily requested, and HN cannot stop being negative. Great job Mozilla. I was already using the awesome “Simple Tab Groups” extension for this but will look into switching.
odd. There's one nitpick I have where you can't move a tab group (you gotta move other tabs around it), but it otherwise is everything I wanted. It even "just works" with no issue alongside tab containers, letting you mix in groups from different containers into one group.
Make sure you have Firefox 138!
From the release notes:
> You can also now reposition a tab group on the tab bar by dragging it.
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#375I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…
I tend to cull tabs a lot myself, but I still find groups useful. Sometimes it's nice for focus to group together a few tabs from research but "minimize" it for later while I look at some other topics.
>Is this more an issue with bookmarks and history not being as useful as they could be?
If you want to put it in hardware terminology.
- Tabs I am immediately interested in: registers
- Tab groups minimized: RAM
- Bookmarks: Hard Drive
- Pocket: cloud storage
- History: My attempt to restore something I put in the recycle bin
Tab groups are a good intermediate to store knowledge I don't need immediately but still need quick access to, likely within the day. It's often some tangential research that I won't need to save or lok at long term, but not my immediate attention.
In my head, bookmarks are more for items I know I want to reference for weeks, months, years. Stuff I know I would want to pluck out and share as popular/general knowledge if others fall down a similar line of research as me. I only tend to refer to the history tab when desperate and my judgement failed to realize something was bookmarkable.
as a current example, I have this tab and a few open researching work stuff. I have a tab group collapsed regarding career advice and job app stuff.
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#376Glad thousands of users who managed to find their feature voting site pushed Mozilla to do a few baby steps Though the current interface isn't good - mandatory group names (which also waste space in the precious tab bar by default) and inability to ungroup with a single key (due to naming conflict) - adds too much friction. Also drag&drop to group is too precise, but also can't be disable, so now you can't reliably m…
>mandatory group names
I'm on 137.0.2 and I just made a nameless tab group just fine. Real estate of a square.
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#377Why did it take so long? It was their number one request for 3 years and chrome pushed this feature nearly 5 years ago. The design looks like a straight copy of chrome so it's not like there was a large design process to work out. It feels like it was finally prioritized so that they could "improve" it with ai, similar to what chrome is doing.
Probably a mix of layoffs (multiple handoffs from people who was working on it), typical beauracracy of a large company, and company politics for personal gain (a requested feature but not some impactful technical feat that would get you promoted). Typical acts of a large tech company
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#378Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…
> I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. I'm just here to report that Firefox + Sidebery continues to work perfectly well at 14571 "open" tabs. All but a few hundred are unloaded, and I block JavaScript fairly aggressively. Currently measuring 1992 MB, explicitly allocated. I won't argue with anyone who tells me that I have a problem, but I will say that Firefox and Sidebery make my problem…
tbh, ADHD meds help for that. Cut down my average tab backlog by 90%.
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#379These HN threads with people that have 20K tabs living for years are so wild! I guess I'm the only savage in the world who closes my browser window and quits the browser application whenever I'm done with my computer for the day. I occasionally use tabs to temporarily have one or two web pages open at a time, usually because I need to browse/compare both of them actively, but when I'm not actively reading a page, I s…
if you're used to opening new links in a new tab (or if it's a target link anyway), it can quickly add up to a dozen+. It can be nice to organize important ones that you need in the short term.
I have no clue how people are managing tabs in the thousands, though. I only have a few hundred bookmarks after spending 20+ years gathering them. I don't need every page I visit to be archived in organizers like that.
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#380Glad thousands of users who managed to find their feature voting site pushed Mozilla to do a few baby steps Though the current interface isn't good - mandatory group names (which also waste space in the precious tab bar by default) and inability to ungroup with a single key (due to naming conflict) - adds too much friction. Also drag&drop to group is too precise, but also can't be disable, so now you can't reliably m…
>mandatory group names I'm on 137.0.2 and I just made a nameless tab group just fine. Real estate of a square.
When you combine tabs, focus shifts to an input field, requiring extra action to dismiss or accept. That's the friction, even if you type nothing.
Also in horizontal tab layout every square matters