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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by wickedsight »

perihelions wrote: post #195
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

- "Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for?" Why are you qualifying "normal" there? I have thousands of tabs open because I have infinite curiosity and a psychological deficit of attention span. An open tab is earnest expression of a curiosity one is unlikely to actualize in this short life. > "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?"

I realised that ChatGPT with o3 has been a great solution to much of this problem for me. When I previously read or heard something that piqued my interest, I would often easily spend over an hour researching through sites, reddit, HN, to find the info I wanted.

Now, I open o3, write a clearly specified question and let o3 do the research for me. More often than not, it comes back with a perfect answer that satisfies my curiosity. Sometimes, it makes me dig a little deeper, but te time spent is a lot less and I can spend that on more 'physical' interests.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

fn-mote wrote: post #294
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #47

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>Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? Basically, bookmarking webpages has been broken since the 1990s. It was (still is?) too difficult to bookmark something with a meaningful name so that you can find it again. Bookmarking is (without extensions... there's one that saves them to Nextcloud) local, so you have them stranded on a work computer or a home computer or your phone. And, they go stale…

> But note-taking software's probably more difficult to get right than bookmarking. Joplin? I’m a happy user. There are several (mostly-free) competitors. You’re going to have to pay for your OwnCloud instance to host the info one way or the other, unless you’re hoping to leech as a free user for an essential part of your workflow.

> ou’re going to have to pay for your OwnCloud instance to host the info one way or the other,

I have fiber internet at home, and an Intel nuc with docker. I wasn't happy with Joplin. Over the years, I've checked out half a dozen or so note apps that did webdav (and could be hooked up to Nextcloud), but never found one that quite worked. Joplin's notes aren't really markdown, he spams them up with metadata... I think I know how I'd fix that if I were writing it, but I'm too lazy I guess. Keep hoping someone else will do it. Oh well.

>unless you’re hoping to leech as a free user

If I'm not going to trust iCloud for stuff like this, I'm not going to trust some smaller fly-by-night company or someone hosting for free. Nah, I have that part covered.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #220
graton wrote: post #25

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Seems different to me. Containers allow you to have different cookies per container.

I think I'd combine the two features, each tab group having it's own container. I'm sure some use would lose their space-bar actuated room heater or whatever the relevant xkcd is.

They're really not the same concern at all. If groups needed to function as containers (or did by default), you would be logged out of a site if you tried to visit it outside of a tab group (or dragged the tab in/out).

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by ibll »

cassianoleal wrote: post #61
barbazoo wrote: post #49

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Have you checked out Arc? I switched the other day and their approach to somewhat-permanent "tabs" is interesting. At first I missed bookmarks but then I realized that what they were doing is actually closer to how I want to use the browser.

If you like Arc but would prefer if it was open source and/or non-Blink/Chromium, Zen is based on Firefox but with an Arc-like interface. https://zen-browser.app/

It copies a lot of Arc, but the core tab organisation features from Arc are significantly lacking. Last I checked (a few weeks ago), Zen didn't even have a keybind for pinning a tab. It fully keeps the Firefox bookmarks and prioritises those all over the UI. The Arc tab system is meant to entirely replace all of that. It just makes Zen feel very shallow in comparison. It's just firefox with some goofy Arc features mashed into the front without care.

Arc (macOS) is ridiculously good though. It's become difficult/impossible for me to use another browser happily the past few years. I wish they were focused on it instead of their mediocre AI browser project. They decided to claim Arc windows was out of beta when it's still vastly worse than the mac version in just about every sense. But at least they got the core tab management features locked down (from what I've heard, I don't have a windows machine to try it on.)

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by bool3max »

evanb wrote: post #321
kryptn wrote: post #300

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I've been liking the new vertical tabs too.

It's so much better than any of the extension-based XUL interface hacks. As soon as they can figure out when to auto-expand the sidebar it will be perfect.

When’s the last time you used an extension of such kind? Sidebery for example doesn’t seem hacky at all to me.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by zavec »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #238

Wow, this is a fantastic feature that was heavily requested, and HN cannot stop being negative. Great job Mozilla. I was already using the awesome “Simple Tab Groups” extension for this but will look into switching.

Right? I've been using the beta and I've been very happy with it. Huge props to Stefan and everybody who worked on this!

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by raffraffraff »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #238

Wow, this is a fantastic feature that was heavily requested, and HN cannot stop being negative. Great job Mozilla. I was already using the awesome “Simple Tab Groups” extension for this but will look into switching.

Amazing timing, I just started using Simple Tab Groups yesterday and this lands. I might as well go straight for the baked in feature!

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by Zecc »

iszomer wrote: post #330
kryptn wrote: post #300

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I've been liking the new vertical tabs too.

Not a fan of vertical tabs as truncated titles hurts my fov aesthetics. These days I will just pin the tab when I want to go back to it later but even that has it's limits too.

After a certain number of open tabs, the titles are less truncated with vertical tabs than horizontal tabs. You also have more of the titles in your center view if you have the text distributed in a more rectangular shape than a technically-also-rectangular-but-much-more-elongated shape.
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