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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by spartanatreyu »

lupusreal wrote: post #243
throwaway743950 wrote: post #242

We get tab groups, but can't get a working gradient without banding. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627771

Not that one actually has anything to do with the other, but I'd rather have useful functionality than meaningless aesthetic crap that I'd never notice if I wasn't examining the pixels with a magnifying glass.

I don't know about you, but this seems pretty damn noticeable:

https://bug627771.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=94621...

Every photo of a landscape ends up with these weird giant floating blobs in the sky.

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Post by terinjokes »

m4r1k wrote: post #63

Apparently, they've also released a new profile manager that's finally simpler than the clunky earlier one. This is the last feature I really need for my workflow to completely ditch Chrome. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-management

It's great this is finally seeing some love! There seems to be some limitations in Firefox 138 that leaves it feeling like it's landed a bit short:

- Missing the context menu "Open in " on URLs or pages. There's often links I want to open in different profile, and I've missed this option from Chrome.

- Existing about:profile profiles aren't importable, other than the initial profile. It looks like adding other profiles manually to the "Profiles" table of the new sqlite database in the "Profile Groups" directory works to add it to the list, but it's still somewhat broken.

- Not documented how to open links from other applications in specific profiles. Passing the profile name (obtained from about:support) to "-P" no longer works, but passing the full path to the profile to "--profile" does. It would be nice to pass just the friendly profile name.

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Post by II2II »

godelski wrote: post #170

Is this feature failing for anyone else? I drag one tab onto another and it just tries moving the tabs, not grouping. Yes, I updated. After doing so it told me about this feature. No, I also cannot see the tab group creation when right clicking. FF 138.0, Sequoia

I figured out why the feature was failing on my system: I needed to enable Install and Run Studies under Send technical and interaction data to Mozilla under Firefox Data Collection and Use under Privacy & Security under Settings. I can understand why Mozilla would do that (they consider it an experimental feature).

Along the same line, the Firefox Labs section of Settings requires the same settings to be enabled. When I enabled it under about:config then opened the settings, the label would briefly appear then disappear. When I went back to about:config, I found the setting was reset to disabled. Again, I can understand why Mozilla would do that.

Yet understanding why is not the same as accepting why. If they want to promote themselves as an open and privacy preserving web browser, they should accept there are some compromises to be made when it comes down to letting users experiment and collecting telemetry.

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Post by OJFord »

Horizontal tabs, tab groups, seems native Firefox is almost if not at the point where I don't need an extension for tabbing any more, which would be great in my books. (Currently and for almost a decade using Sidebery. The containers integration and 'panels' is what I think might still be missing for me to switch. I'd probably sacrifice the former, but I love panels.)

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Post by mixmastamyk »

OneDeuxTriSeiGo wrote: post #109
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tabs don't get loaded until I revisit them after restarting firefox. So 90%+ of the tabs are just bookmarks really.

Well not exactly. Tab suspenders (at least the ones I use) dump the current DOM state, etc to disk so when you reload the tab, it reloads it in mostly the same state it was in when you left it. Of course some pages don't like that and force a full refresh but generally I find when I get a tab reload on a documentation page when it loads back up I end up at roughly the same part of the page I was on when I left off.

Don’t believe that continues through a restart by default.

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Post by DrammBA »

canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

> I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time

Me neither, and I find groups very helpful to me!

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by ValveFan6969 »

I'd love to see Tab Groups, but what I don't love is how Firefox has lost their focus and vision. For years, Mozilla's mission was not only to provide a private and secure browsing experience, but one that was also lightweight and simple. Nowadays, it seems their idea of innovation is to just rip off Chrome's features.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by dredmorbius »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

What are you using to unload tabs?

I've got to confess that my FF memory management is a run-as-needed-or-think-it-should-be-needed shell script which arbitrarily kills the top 10 Firefox processes by memory utilisation. If I'm leaving my desktop for a while I'll run that several times.

Tree-style Tabs keeps the slots open, and can reload tabs as needed.

I'd really like to have the capacity to unload all tabs other than, say, a specifically-specified set. Though on balance, the tabs that are likely to be most usefully kept open also tend to be the worst memory offenders.

If I fail to prune, MacOS falls over early and often, which is somewhat unpleasant.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

OneDeuxTriSeiGo wrote: post #109
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tabs don't get loaded until I revisit them after restarting firefox. So 90%+ of the tabs are just bookmarks really.

Well not exactly. Tab suspenders (at least the ones I use) dump the current DOM state, etc to disk so when you reload the tab, it reloads it in mostly the same state it was in when you left it. Of course some pages don't like that and force a full refresh but generally I find when I get a tab reload on a documentation page when it loads back up I end up at roughly the same part of the page I was on when I left off.

That's a big reason why I prefer tabs to bookmarks. Unloaded tabs have their state saved, bookmarks don't.
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