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Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by KerrAvon »

socalgal2 wrote: post #34

I don't know if it's the same people but many of the comments here seem the opposite of the comments on EUs rules where people say they're targeting specific companies and comments say "no, the rules are such than all companies over a certain size are covered". If the rule is 85% domestic than any company can do it. I'm not saying the tariffs are good. Only that their point is to get things made domesticly

>If the rule is 85% domestic than any company can do it.

To be making this claim, you must be an vehicle supply chain expert, so can you tell the rest of us which parts can be domestically sourced in the US and which can't?

Also, why is the Model S is stuck at 80%?

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by MildlySerious »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #16
amelius wrote: post #13

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Nonsense. Does anyone seriously think the military is going to defy SCOTUS at the end of the four years? Does anyone seriously think Jan 6th, bad as it was, was going to end the republic[0]? Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it seriously. [0] Especially because what it tells our enemies. Iran, take out just this one specific building, and America is done for!

> Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it seriously.

The same is true about the sitting president and some of his staunch supporters repeatedly "joking" about, and alluding to a third term[1][2][3][4] - including merch[5].

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-third-te...

[2] https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5104133-rep-andy-ogles-pr...

[3] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-jokes-ru...

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9-ft4BvHTE

[5] https://citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2025/04/29/trump-...

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by legitster »

rectang wrote: post #7

I have zero faith in "free market" ideologues, because what we actually get when they gain power is just favoritism for "free market" ideologues.

Trump was never actually a "free market" idealogue. And the GOP officially dropped any mentions of it from their party platform a few years ago.

If anything, they are doing exactly what they promised. They were against globalism and elites and international agreements and governance and they are being true to their words.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

marcusb wrote: post #45
bix6 wrote: post #33

It’s funny cybertruck doesn’t make the cut, unfortunately nobody buys those so it’s irrelevant.

I see them quite frequently where I live, usually covered in a vinyl wrap advertising some local business or other.

There appears to be someone in my local city that is using their cybertruck as a billboard. They drive around during rush hours and every week or so they switch the wrap to a different company. I wonder if it's being widely done elsewhere.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by carpo »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #16
amelius wrote: post #13

[flagged]

Nonsense. Does anyone seriously think the military is going to defy SCOTUS at the end of the four years? Does anyone seriously think Jan 6th, bad as it was, was going to end the republic[0]? Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it seriously. [0] Especially because what it tells our enemies. Iran, take out just this one specific building, and America is done for!

It's not one event that destroys a republic, but a series of little ones that slowly erode the norms, until all of sudden there's someone willing to cross the Rubicon. You've got 44 months of erosion to go.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by bushido »

Aloisius wrote: post #28
toast0 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying if I import a used car, I don't have to pay tariffs? Factory delivery programs would become a lot more popular. Or are you just saying that if I buy a car that's already in the US and has already had any import tariffs due at time of import paid, I won't have to pay them again? That's a lot less interesting.

Yes. Volvo has had a program for decades where they fly you to Sweden where drive a vehicle around long enough for it to be "used", buy it then they ship it over to the US to avoid US new car import tariffs.

Very surprised to learn that this is real https://www.volvocars.com/us/l/osd-tourist/

Pretty cool. Lots more info on reddit threads.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by KerrAvon »

socalgal2 wrote: post #34

I don't know if it's the same people but many of the comments here seem the opposite of the comments on EUs rules where people say they're targeting specific companies and comments say "no, the rules are such than all companies over a certain size are covered". If the rule is 85% domestic than any company can do it. I'm not saying the tariffs are good. Only that their point is to get things made domesticly

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Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by throwaway48476 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #15
throwaway48476 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is but it always has been. I would also appreciate if the big 3 American car companies had 85% American content.

> would also appreciate if the big 3 American car companies had 85% American content Versus 80%? Those five percentage points are worth a double-digit tariff.

5 percentage points should be easy enough for them to change then by moving a few supply chains.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by gkoberger »

socalgal2 wrote: post #34

I don't know if it's the same people but many of the comments here seem the opposite of the comments on EUs rules where people say they're targeting specific companies and comments say "no, the rules are such than all companies over a certain size are covered". If the rule is 85% domestic than any company can do it. I'm not saying the tariffs are good. Only that their point is to get things made domesticly

Why 85% and not 80%? It’s an arbitrary cutoff that happens to benefit Elon.

Ford will quickly get to 85%, but you can’t deny this is yet again a move that is touted as “pro-America” yet somehow mainly benefits Musk (or Trump or someone in their orbit).

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by fullshark »

legitster wrote: post #53
rectang wrote: post #7

I have zero faith in "free market" ideologues, because what we actually get when they gain power is just favoritism for "free market" ideologues.

Trump was never actually a "free market" idealogue. And the GOP officially dropped any mentions of it from their party platform a few years ago. If anything, they are doing exactly what they promised. They were against globalism and elites and international agreements and governance and they are being true to their words.

The “libertarians” who are in bed with Trump however…
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