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Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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The CEO of Ford is very critical of Trump.

But Ford can probably get the USA content for gas-powered Mustangs up from 80% to 85%. The electric version is made in Mexico, but once Ford's Blue Oval City plant in Tennessee comes up in 2027, that will move to the US.

Of course, who knows where Trump will be by then.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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I have zero faith in "free market" ideologues, because what we actually get when they gain power is just favoritism for "free market" ideologues.

Same. This era has exposed them as the shameless hypocrites they are.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Used cars are ALSO exempt. And, all used goods bought at secondhand stores are tariff-exempt as well. And so is FB marketplace, Craigslist, and others. My protest is meager, but effective for us - we just will buy used and use 'Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle' where we can. EnEnough of us doing that will slow and hamper the economy (read: rich peoples' money).

Used cars respond to market forces too.

If new cars become much more expensive, used cars will become much more expensive. This isn't even a theoretical idea. The exact thing happend in 2020-2021 when you couldn't buy a new car.

This is what many don't understand about tariffs in general: you put tariffs on foreign goods and anything exempt will simply raise their prices to match.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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I have zero faith in "free market" ideologues, because what we actually get when they gain power is just favoritism for "free market" ideologues.

You can extend the "free market ideologues" to include more groups such as those who were very concerned about free speech for exactly four years from 2021-2024. Same people were concerned about politicization of justice department, but only when certain Presidents are in office. Same goes for "respect for constitution". "Family values" was abandoned quite a while ago.

Wilhoit’s Law has never been truer.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Nonsense. Does anyone seriously think the military is going to defy SCOTUS at the end of the four years? Does anyone seriously think Jan 6th, bad as it was, was going to end the republic[0]? Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it seriously. [0] Especially because what it tells our enemies. Iran, take out just this one specific building, and America is done for!

What did the military do on Jan 6? They stood back and did nothing.

That wasn’t an actual coup because some Capitol Police had the balls to do their job and Vice President Pence is a patriot.

I’m sure the next time around anyone “untrustworthy” in the police force will have been removed, and the national Guard in surrounding states will have routine training in Alaska.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Used cars are ALSO exempt. And, all used goods bought at secondhand stores are tariff-exempt as well. And so is FB marketplace, Craigslist, and others. My protest is meager, but effective for us - we just will buy used and use 'Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle' where we can. EnEnough of us doing that will slow and hamper the economy (read: rich peoples' money).

Are you saying if I import a used car, I don't have to pay tariffs? Factory delivery programs would become a lot more popular. Or are you just saying that if I buy a car that's already in the US and has already had any import tariffs due at time of import paid, I won't have to pay them again? That's a lot less interesting.

Yes. Volvo has had a program for decades where they fly you to Sweden where drive a vehicle around long enough for it to be "used", buy it then they ship it over to the US to avoid US new car import tariffs.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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I am kind of surprised that the collection of people at the tops of all the big companies commanding so many billions, don't have some sort of behind the scenes levers they can pull to make him squeal like a pig, elected office or no.

I can only assume they're all actually largely ok with it.

I would not have imagined that they just never thought about things like that in general and now have actually no idea what to do now that this kind of situation has happened. I have no previously considered reactions or plans for most things and life just smacks me in the face like I've been walking with my eyes closed, but I'm a hapless midwit.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Right so let’s give credit to the fine people who work at Tesla , not the wealthy child who swooped in at the end and claimed all the work as his. In other words: literally anyone except Elon Musk.

Musk became CEO of Tesla when their only car was an electric converted Lotus...
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