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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by pessimizer »

apocalyptic0n3 wrote: post #64
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #5

Already using Tree Style Tabs. It's the one critical plugin I need. I still don't understand how anyone works without it.

Personally, it's easy for me. If I get above 10 tabs, I just close them all. I don't see any value in having more than that and they just become a distraction for me. Tree style, sidebar tabs, tab groups, etc. are just overkill for me.

That's just not how some people browse. When I hit HN's frontpage, I open every thread with an interesting headline in a new tab (within the HN tree.) Then I visit them one by one, and at least each one gets another tab opened (for the article.) The article may get multiple tabs opened if it has references or links that are interesting. If there's something that I want to get back to later, or don't have time to read now but looks interesting, it stays open. If I won't get to it for a while (before the next time I return to HN) it gets pulled out of the HN tree into its own tree.

  HN frontpage
  |> Interesting thread
  .|> Interesting article
  ..|> Interesting link from article 1
  ..|> Interesting link from article 2
  .|> Link from interesting thread.
  |> Interesting thread
  |> Interesting thread
  |> Interesting thread
  |> Interesting thread
Things that get moved out of tree I might get back to in an hour or a year.

If I'm at Amazon trying to buy a spatula, I have 10 different Amazon spatula pages open, and also three articles about spatulas within the tab tree.

I dunno. When I go to a bookstore, I don't buy one book, go home, then come back and buy another book. I browse the bookstore, buy everything that I want, and I put most of them on a shelf while I read one. I do not find the shelf a distraction.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by neocron »

I wonder how many times I saw this feature implemented, die, missed and implemented again... Especially in Firefox all features seem to have relatively short but endless circles of dying and resurrection

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by GordonS »

eviks wrote: post #144

Glad thousands of users who managed to find their feature voting site pushed Mozilla to do a few baby steps Though the current interface isn't good - mandatory group names (which also waste space in the precious tab bar by default) and inability to ungroup with a single key (due to naming conflict) - adds too much friction. Also drag&drop to group is too precise, but also can't be disable, so now you can't reliably m…

I'd love to be able to use an icon instead of names - maybe it could let you select a favicon from one of the member tabs.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#185

Post by m_t »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #136

This is weird to me because like 10 years ago Firefox had something with tabs that I loved, where you could have workspaces and switch between them, then that randomly disappeared. It was called Panorama and that was removed in Firefox 45

Thank you for mentioning this. I felt like I was going crazy not seeing anyone mentioning it in the comments.

This was a very important feature to le at the time, as I used to work on multiple projects at the same time, and I had all of those organised in a simple, very visual way. I also had a group for "communication" with all my webmails, forums, etc. And another one with all the webcomics I used to read at the time.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by lazycouchpotato »

godelski wrote: post #170

Is this feature failing for anyone else? I drag one tab onto another and it just tries moving the tabs, not grouping. Yes, I updated. After doing so it told me about this feature. No, I also cannot see the tab group creation when right clicking. FF 138.0, Sequoia

Appears to still be rolling out progressively - something that the release notes left out. I'm on 138.0 and I don't have it either.

> All users should expect to see the feature by May 6, 2025. [1]

[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by m4rtink »

quesera wrote: post #175
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

> I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. I'm just here to report that Firefox + Sidebery continues to work perfectly well at 14571 "open" tabs. All but a few hundred are unloaded, and I block JavaScript fairly aggressively. Currently measuring 1992 MB, explicitly allocated. I won't argue with anyone who tells me that I have a problem, but I will say that Firefox and Sidebery make my problem…

Can report that my testing indicates 40k+ tabs is doable with unloading on a 64 GB machine, across multiple Firefox windows with tree style tab.

Since task manager has been introduced, making it easy to unload whole related tab groups its even easier to reach absurd total tab counts. ;-)

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by m4rtink »

seltzered_ wrote: post #135
ziddoap wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wouldn’t each one still use up some memory Firefox unloads tabs that haven't recently been used, or as memory approaches system limits. You can also manually unload your least-recently-used loaded tab.

Yes, but in practice I've experienced Firefox (at least under linux) getting killed by the OS when RAM runs low. I recently lost some low-priority reading projects after I couldn't recover the tab sets (they were opened months ago, so hard to dig back through history) I've found myself using Sidebery and the manual 'unload' tab option quite a bit.

I suggest using the session manager extension & having it do periodic snapshots.
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