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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by philsnow »

alabastervlog wrote: post #7
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

I'm not consistent about going back and closing tabs. By the time I've browsed on a couple topics, I have enough tabs open I can't see the titles any more, and it's downhill from there. Some of them, I think "this is good, I'll come back to this when I get a chance" so I don't want to mass-close them. Eventually I'm opening new tabs of tabs I already have open, because it's faster than finding the original. Every now…

> By the time I've browsed on a couple topics, I have enough tabs open I can't see the titles any more

Sidebery or TreeStyleTabs lets you see the titles no matter how many you have. ... Well, you have to scroll, but it's so much better than having to go through tab-by-tab with a typical horizontal tab bar.

> Every now and then, I declare tab bankruptcy, mass bookmark them (to get over the feeling that I'll be closing something important), and close them all.

> I've never, ever, once, in 15ish years of operating this way, looked at any of the bookmarks.

Even though I can see the tab titles, this is exactly what I do(n't). I threw together a couple scripts to extract all the tabs (including which window they're in), and export that all to an org-mode file.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by jacobgkau »

causality0 wrote: post #96

I have tons of tabs open but tab grouping is an anti-feature. It takes way more time fucking around with tab groups, opening them, closing them, moving then around than I've ever saved by using them.

Yeah, I've had close to a thousand tabs open regularly on my main system, but I just use windows as my tab groups (and workspaces as my window groups). Another layer of grouping isn't what I need to manage that better.

I do think it's nice to have as an option for the many people who seem to want it, though.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by sdk- »

3D30497420 wrote: post #58
reginald78 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is particularly bizarre to me that the tab bar is horizontal on browsers. We switched to wide screen monitors close to 20 years ago, then stubbornly continued to waste vertical real estate for UI elements. Then webpages all went hard on mobile oriented designs and literally throw away the extra horizontal space by forcing portrait layouts. Yet we still use horizontal bars that make it hard to display tab titles an…

I do a decent amount of front-end work, so I'll have a browser and code editor side-by side on a 29in monitor. In this situation, I very much prefer horizontal tabs. So that's one use case.

Exactly this. Plus, I rarely have over 20 tabs and even when I'm close to that number I mainly use the 10 first ones. Vertical tabs is a cool feature but both modes are useful depending your needs.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by ksec »

canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

Most common scenario. RSS Reading.

I often wonder how other people read their RSS feeds. I open them as new tab for all my interested links. My Subscribed list mostly generate about 400 - 500 links per day. Most of them are news. And scanning through all of them I mostly open about 30 - 40 tabs. Sometimes it could be up to 100s depending on topics. Then I just run through them one by one. The same goes with HN. Normally I get about 10 - 20 tabs opened on HN per day. All Together this could be 50 - 60 Tabs opened. And if you dont have time to read through them all they stayed there. Another day another reading cycle.

Another category which happens to have lots of tabs is Shopping and comparing. Trying to look for the best tools for the best price and where I could buy them. This normally includes opening 5 - 10 Tabs form the like of Reddit or some other specific forums.

Or Researching about a Topic where it leads to 5 other sub topic and every sub topic has 5 - 8 tabs.

I currently have different "Groups" of tabs, MBA, Jobs Searching, People I follow, Surgery operation comparison, Insurance, Youtube [1], AI, Electric Toothbrush and Water and Water Floss ( Any Recommendation from HN ? ), HN, Twitter.

I used to do 1000s of tabs but Nowadays I tend to limit to within a few hundred at most. Although that is also partly because Safari is the worst browser for multiple tabs and Firefox on iOS dont work as well.

[1] I increasingly think Youtube should have a Desktop App because the web simply does not provide good enough experience.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by quesera »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

> I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management.

I'm just here to report that Firefox + Sidebery continues to work perfectly well at 14571 "open" tabs.

All but a few hundred are unloaded, and I block JavaScript fairly aggressively. Currently measuring 1992 MB, explicitly allocated.

I won't argue with anyone who tells me that I have a problem, but I will say that Firefox and Sidebery make my problem not a problem!

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by chupasaurus »

ksec wrote: post #153
seltzered_ wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but in practice I've experienced Firefox (at least under linux) getting killed by the OS when RAM runs low. I recently lost some low-priority reading projects after I couldn't recover the tab sets (they were opened months ago, so hard to dig back through history) I've found myself using Sidebery and the manual 'unload' tab option quite a bit.

Interesting, because out of all the three browser Firefox should be the best at memory management, unloading tabs along with Sessions recovery. But I have only ever used it on Windows and Mac. So no idea about Linux. You can do About:memory to check out which tabs are using more memory as well as manual memory compact. Firefox also allows unlimited History, unlike Chrome which I believe you cant even have history for…

FF memory management on Linux is usually outpaced by oom_killer.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by chupasaurus »

breput wrote: post #14
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

I am not a tab hoarder, but I have been using Tab Groups as a way to collect (and hide) YouTube videos for future viewing. I had previously used the Pin Tab feature to collapse them, but Tab Groups allows you to have essentially unlimited videos that only take up a single favicon-sized space when collapsed.

Pinning tabs is very bad for YouTube because they are always rendered and thus always leaking.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by aquova »

godelski wrote: post #170

Is this feature failing for anyone else? I drag one tab onto another and it just tries moving the tabs, not grouping. Yes, I updated. After doing so it told me about this feature. No, I also cannot see the tab group creation when right clicking. FF 138.0, Sequoia

I just updated on my work Windows machine, it seems to be working great

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by philsnow »

m4r1k wrote: post #63

Apparently, they've also released a new profile manager that's finally simpler than the clunky earlier one. This is the last feature I really need for my workflow to completely ditch Chrome. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-management

> Firefox prevents syncing multiple profiles with the same Mozilla account on the same device. If you create a new Firefox profile and then try to sign in to Sync with the same Mozilla account used in the other profile on that device, Firefox will block the sign-in to keep profiles separate.

Is this just a temporary technical limitation / anybody know if there are plans to fix this? Why should the user need to remember which profile is synced on a given device?

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