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Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by BeetleB »

neogodless wrote: post #110

About a year ago, I tried the free 300 search trial. I liked it, but wasn't ready to commit to the expense. This year, they offered me a free 30 day unlimited trial, so I'm about 10 days into that. I've only used 128 searches so far. What I seem to find is that I use it, get to what I'm looking for, and move on. So it's not really on my mind. But it's subtly refreshing to spend less time fighting search to get what I…

Just FYI, if you run out of your 300, you can simply renew on that date. So if 300 searches lasts you 21 days, you're effectively paying between $5 and $10 per month. If you run out halfway, though, it's cheaper to pay for unlimited.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by behringer »

mac-attack wrote: post #189
Liquix wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW it's possible to replace the streaming services with something like Jellyfin+Radarr+Sonarr or Kodi+RealDebrid to cut the bill down to <$50/yr, and you also get access to media on all streaming services. leaves plenty of room in the budget for things that can't be self-hosted (like a proper search engine). some may cite ethical concerns but i don't think HBO execs making money hand over fist are concerned about e…

Why not just avoid their services instead of pirating their content and matching the ethics of their execs?

It's not piracy because they've made it clear that digital ownership is not actually ownership.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by bigyabai »

nedt wrote: post #204

I'm actually happy with the duckduckgo results and also have a couple of bangs I use regularly. My biggest issue with using Kagi would be that I have to log in. I tend to clear cookies, either automated when closing a tab or by using a private browser, and would always have to relogin.

Me too, actually. I'm starting to think this "buy Kagi!" movement is being pushed by people who didn't even know they could change their default search provider.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by KoolKat23 »

sph wrote: post #49
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple makes it hard to use a search engine like Kagi on iOS Unobvious. Not hard. To the chasm that is getting someone to pay for search, getting them to install an app and follow tedious but simple configuration instructions is a gap in the sidewalk.

I have been a software engineer for almost two decades and it's taken me three tries at reading and rereading the instruction on how to set Kagi as default search on iOS, because I missed the fact that I had to allow permission to use the extension WHILE browsing google.com for it to work, as it has to intercept the query to rewrite the URL. When all it should've been is a "custom search engine" option like Firefox d…

How Apple haven't already lost a massive anti-trust case is beyond me.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by rafram »

mvieira38 wrote: post #230
rafram wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a search for "avi to mp4": - Google shows CloudConvert, then some helpful Reddit threads, then Ask Ubuntu, then some spammy SEO-optimized converter websites. - Kagi shows CloudConvert, then pages and pages of spammy SEO-optimized converter websites. Google clearly wins there.

Did the same here on my Android phone. Google:First result, occupying half my screen, was a sponsored Google Play junk app, then CloudConvert, FreeConvert, Convertio, Adobe Express, Restream (this one seems like garbage), then a second Play widget and then SEO slop. Kagi: FreeConvert, CloudConvert, a youtube tutorial, a Quick Peek widget with unhelpful topics, Restream, Adobe Express, SEO slop at the end. Not that mu…

It's not just me getting Reddit discussion results - Google has an exclusive deal with Reddit to list it in search results [1], and it tends to be ranked highly now for more subjective/recommendation-based queries. (And I did this test after clicking the "Try without personalization" link in the Google footer.)

I didn't list the ads in the Google results because I didn't see them. There's no reason not to be using an ad blocker, and unlike Kagi, it's free.

[1]: https://www.404media.co/google-is-the-only-search-engine-tha...

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by handsclean »

kristofferR wrote: post #206
nedt wrote: post #204

I'm actually happy with the duckduckgo results and also have a couple of bangs I use regularly. My biggest issue with using Kagi would be that I have to log in. I tend to clear cookies, either automated when closing a tab or by using a private browser, and would always have to relogin.

Nope, they've solved that: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

Session links are what you’re looking for. Privacy Pass doesn’t work if you clear cookies, and in fact will lock you out of Privacy Pass for a month if you clear cookies maybe four times. Ask me how I found out.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/private-browser-sessions....

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by cosmicgadget »

jwe wrote: post #221
axegon_ wrote: post #36

No, thanks, I'll stick to qwant: https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1gvcqua/psa_the_ka...

Same for me. I don't understand why they are not able to cleanly separate themselves from Yandex. Their explanations don't help me understand it but only serve as "we hear you and consciously decide to still fund a Russian company". If anybody reading this is willing to disabuse me of this I'll try to be open for a different perspective.

It's the same as when Russians are asked about the invasion, "I'm not political."

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by yesfitz »

catapart wrote: post #228

Posting for the unaware, without commentary on the content - just an FYI because it's something that matters to me, at least: https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html

I read through the whole opinion piece.

Which part matters to you? Because it's not obvious.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by infinitifall »

rafram wrote: post #225
28304283409234 wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happy paying customer of Kagi here. because to me intention counts. Kagi has the explicit intention to serve me their best results. Google has the explicit intention to get me to click on their customers results. Happy to pay kagi.

Use an ad blocker.

Now Google has no intention to serve you
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