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Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by alex-mohr »

jve wrote: post #64
alex-mohr wrote: post #19

The code in question reminds me a lot of my favorite Kubernetes bug: if (request.authenticationData) { ok := validate(etc); if (!ok) { return authenticationFailure; } } Turns out the same meme spans decades.

Where can I read about the bug? And what is the bug? If there is no authenticationData it is authenticated by default or what?

It was in the early days of Kubernetes and long since fixed. I don't recall the precise details, but it was likely the first official CVE we published: https://kubernetes.io/docs/reference/issues-security/officia...

Link to the patch fixing it: https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/commit/7fef0a4f6a44...

Of course, we'd already fixed other issues like Kubelet listening on a secondary debug port with no authentication. Those problems stemmed from its origins as a make-it-possible hacker project and it took a while to pivot it to something usable in an enterprise.

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Post by Suppafly »

greenavocado wrote: post #159
skyyler wrote: post #158

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Too busy to discuss your preferences. Not busy enough to not discuss your being too busy to discuss your preferences on internet forums. I'm not trying to be mean here, I'm just fascinated by what people will consider to be a waste of time.

Evangelizing KDE is not something I care about

>Evangelizing KDE is not something I care about

This, sometimes it's enough for things to just work as you expect so you can do your actual work. I don't really understand why so many people are unpaid part time evangelizers.

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by presbyterian »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #208
caseyohara wrote: post #151

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> And this is the so-called responsive design... I’m not sure if this was meant to be a pun, but “responsive design” has nothing to do with how quickly a UI loads. It’s about adapting to different screen sizes.

Plain html could do that too. People forget the ancient knowledge.

If everything was plain HTML, the web would still be only for academics and a handful of nerds, and most of the people on HN would have to find other jobs.

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Post by zeeebo »

MisterTea wrote: post #190
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #188

Many, many years ago, when I still used Windows recreationally, I used to edit the value of a specific Windows registry key, replacing "explorer.exe" with "cmd.exe". This would prevent Windows from runningg explorer.exe and launching the "desktop" with wallpaper, icons, etc. This produced what seemed more like a UNIX window manager, a solid backgground, where each window is a Microsoft cmd.exe shell, a classic Window…

There is/was a mode for this in Windows server. I also seem to remember a low cost/free windows for server or embedded meant for iot or whatever that featured cmd only without explorer.

Sounds similar to WinPE

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Post by smittywerben »

cornholio wrote: post #114
Peanuts99 wrote: post #109

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I'd be willing to bet this is more to do with chipset drivers and associated software than Windows itself.

You may lose that bet. Nobody is writing or pushing driver updates for 10 year old hardware, yet Microsoft's strategy to cripple S3 sleep to compete with mobile OSes is well documented, with the, again, widely documented effect of setting on fire laptops their owners believed were "shut down".

Hell even today in 2025 I installed my Wacom tablet drivers (USB drawing tablet) and the installer says "You must restart your system... Note: Shut down is not the same as Restart", like what does that even mean? It's a classic Microsoft move I'd say.

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Post by hulitu »

ryao wrote: post #8
sightofcorbie wrote: post #2

“Comfort food”. That’s so funny. I still use motif window manager with steelblue4 desktop and wheat xterm background since aix into Linux. That was my first default in 1989 college and nothing has improved since. (Gnome, kde and the like make me want to upchuck).

What will you do when you want to use a 4K monitor? This is not to be dismissive. I am genuinely curious if HiDPI works on motif.

> What will you do when you want to use a 4K monitor? This is not to be dismissive. I am genuinely curious if HiDPI works on motif.

Yes, xrandr -scale. Works fine for everything. Even better than Windows (which, for some reason, only scales some programs, not all)

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Post by eadmund »

cogman10 wrote: post #174
woolion wrote: post #139

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I checked in KDE, since I'm generally confused as to why it's not more popular now: in the wallpaper settings you choose `wallpaper type: plain color` and it gives you a color picker to set it. It also shows you the screen you set it for, and a boolean to set it for all screens at once.

I think it's historic reasons. KDE used to be the "bloated" desktop way back when (I know, pretty silly and laughable now given the current state of things). That cemented Gnome/Mate into a lot of major distros as the primary DME. Ubuntu being the most famous. The QT licensing situation is also a bit of a bizarre quagmire. There are certainly people that don't like KDE for more ideological reasons. Personally, none o…

> KDE used to be the "bloated" desktop

That’s not my recollection. I believe that the non-free license you mention was the major factor, in addition to the fact that KDE was written in C++ at a time when the free software community still preferred to write software primarily in C.

GNOME was written using a free software toolkit, and it was written in C, and it was associated with the FSF.

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Post by woolion »

gymbeaux wrote: post #195
skyyler wrote: post #184

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One person's "bloat" is another person's "batteries included".

KDE Wallet though?

Funny, I used to think it was bloat but then I got to use it to store passwords for remote servers accessed with ssh, and now it's a nice 'batteries included' for me, as GP mentioned. It has become so because it is nicely and seamlessly integrated.

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Post by shashashank »

LastMuel wrote: post #150
greenavocado wrote: post #146

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Those of us that use KDE don't necessarily broadcast it

Why? KDE is awesome.

I'm a recent convert from Gnome. Mostly cause Gnome seemed to have too many mysterious crashes—waking from sleep, switching between windows when video was playing—so much so that it was just easier to switch to something modern (as opposed to sway/i3) and not have to learn/rewrite keybindings.
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