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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by riquito »

radicality wrote: post #56
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

Damn, 2k tabs, I’m not familiar with sideberry but with 2k of them are they even right to be called native ‘tabs’ or do they function more like bookmarks? > computational costs are close to zero Is that true for normal Firefox tabs (I usually use chrome/safari) ? Wouldn’t each one still use up some memory, keep any background tasks running etc. If some tab starts playing audio how do you even find it?

They don't consume anything, at my peak I closed 2736 tabs (I have a photo to commemorate). Firefox somehow didn't care

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by elcomet »

alanbernstein wrote: post #22
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

Mainly because the interfaces for tabs, bookmarks, and history are all quite disparate instead of being unified like they should be. None of them are good , but the interface for tabs is more manageable.

Arc browser unifies the tabs and bookmarks in a very clever way.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by thibran »

After Firefox Mobile, killing Thunderbird and a sharp decline in market share, Mozilla finally starts to build what it's users want. Selling it as gigantic success is very American.

In the end vertical tabs are nice and I hope I like the new tab groups too (the previous official tab group addon got killed by Mozilla and 'destroyed' my workflows at the time).

Let's see, maybe Mozilla is on the path to something great yet again by being more innovative.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by neogodless »

butterlettuce wrote: post #4

Where can I download it? I don't see a link in the blog.

As others said, it will be built into Firefox, and is already part of the mid-April release, but apparently not yet enabled. When I updated to 137.0.2, it opened the following page:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups

> Starting in Firefox version 137, you can use tab groups to manage open tabs in Firefox by grouping them together and labelling them. All users should expect to see the feature by May 6, 2025.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by yapyap »

> What happens when 4,500 people ask for the same feature? At Firefox, we build it

How about 4500 people ask mozilla not to sell their data?

Snark aside, I’m still a firefox user because they haven’t molested us with manifest v3 yet. I hope it stays that way.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by JohnTHaller »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #29
blackenedgem wrote: post #28

The funny thing is Firefox already perfected this feature years ago with Panorama. Then one day decided to remove it because "less than 1% of users use it" ( https://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-45-will-drop-tab-gro... ) There's been community forks of it since then that I switched to and will continue to use instead. Grouping tabs at the top is much worse UX than an entire page you can drag and drop around, and b…

What percent of their users even have telemetry enabled? Mozilla always pulls this crap, using these biased telemetry numbers as a fig leaf to drop genuinely useful features. Luckily they still allow for community modification.

Most users leave telemetry enabled. It's enabled by default.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by Arelius »

iworshipfaangs2 wrote: post #75
alabastervlog wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not consistent about going back and closing tabs. By the time I've browsed on a couple topics, I have enough tabs open I can't see the titles any more, and it's downhill from there. Some of them, I think "this is good, I'll come back to this when I get a chance" so I don't want to mass-close them. Eventually I'm opening new tabs of tabs I already have open, because it's faster than finding the original. Every now…

Good lord! If you mass bookmark, aren't you just turning your bookmarks into your history? In that case why not just use browser history instead?

I don't do this, but it appeals to me, as History seems to be pretty spotty, I've a couple of times recently tried to find something in my history, and it ended up as if it was never there.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by ziddoap »

iworshipfaangs2 wrote: post #75
alabastervlog wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not consistent about going back and closing tabs. By the time I've browsed on a couple topics, I have enough tabs open I can't see the titles any more, and it's downhill from there. Some of them, I think "this is good, I'll come back to this when I get a chance" so I don't want to mass-close them. Eventually I'm opening new tabs of tabs I already have open, because it's faster than finding the original. Every now…

Good lord! If you mass bookmark, aren't you just turning your bookmarks into your history? In that case why not just use browser history instead?

Not the person you're replying to, but I clear history on close. I don't clear bookmarks on close.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by hs86 »

radicality wrote: post #56
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

Damn, 2k tabs, I’m not familiar with sideberry but with 2k of them are they even right to be called native ‘tabs’ or do they function more like bookmarks? > computational costs are close to zero Is that true for normal Firefox tabs (I usually use chrome/safari) ? Wouldn’t each one still use up some memory, keep any background tasks running etc. If some tab starts playing audio how do you even find it?

(Not OP) Sidebery is half tab manager, half session manager. It stays in the sidebar, and if I collapse parts of my tree, I have set it to unload those folded tabs after 60 minutes. There is also an option to hide those folded tabs from the native tab bar.

Sidebery, Tree Style Tabs, and Tabs Outliner (for Chrome) all go beyond just adding a linear/flat vertical tab bar to your browser. They preserve a nested hierarchy for child tabs and allow you to restore the entire tree (or just parts of it) on another device, which is super handy if you often switch between desktop, laptop, etc.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by the_player »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

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