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I don't understand why anyone buys Oracle. Every Oracle product I used over the last 15 years has been awful.
Because Oracle comes to any country/industry with trucks of money to corrupt officials and lobby their adoption. And after a few years you find yourself in a situation when you already paid for Oracle so much, integrated it so deeply, so switching to any alternative is a massive pain and in most cases it’s safer and easier to keep paying Oracle.
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The "real world" of airline reservations, the world's financial infrastructure and basically anything involving hardcore real data processing runs on COBOL. But yeah, if you're looking to code up a progressive web app or next blockbuster MMORPG, I wouldn't recommend COBOL.
The top (in the world) 2 airline reservation system Amadeus have ported everything to Kubernetes for years now. In fact they were among the top contributors to the project a few years back. It's all a matter of age and maturity. Nobody starting an airline, or financial company, or "hardcore data processing" today even bothers considering a mainframe or COBOL.
I don't understand why anyone buys Oracle. Every Oracle product I used over the last 15 years has been awful.
Sure, Postgres beats OracleDB, but Postgres doesn't integrate as well with Oracle Fusion and you need to migrate the code yourself. They're like SAP: they're big enough that you can make a career just out of configuring their software packages and make good money while doing so.
It's expensive and certainly not the best, but it's reasonably stable and has a huge company backing it. Oracle won't disappear any time soon and they're not as likely as Google or Microsoft to shut down their services within a few years notice.
In some countries, Oracle is also very good at doing what Google and Microsoft are doing to students. The Brazilian programmers I've spoken to specifically learned OracleDB when they were taught relational databases. They learned to program in Java, and I'm sure Oracle also sponsored other parts of the professional tooling they got to use for free. Microsoft, on the other hand, didn't seem to generous towards their educational facility (no free MS tooling for their schools like they offer over here). If all you know is Photoshop/Windows/Maya/OracleDB/iOS, you're going to look for jobs where you can use Photoshop/Windows/Maya/OracleDB/iOS, and employers looking for cheap juniors will need to offer Photoshop/Windows/Maya/OracleDB/iOS to make the best use of them.
I don't understand why anyone buys Oracle. Every Oracle product I used over the last 15 years has been awful.
Because Oracle comes to any country/industry with trucks of money to corrupt officials and lobby their adoption. And after a few years you find yourself in a situation when you already paid for Oracle so much, integrated it so deeply, so switching to any alternative is a massive pain and in most cases it’s safer and easier to keep paying Oracle.
I don't understand why anyone buys Oracle. Every Oracle product I used over the last 15 years has been awful.
Oracle offers everything. Databases, web frameworks, programming languages, CRMs, cloud management tools, auto scaling clusters, identity management, BI, document search, email servers, colocation, mainframes, calendar sync. You name it, they've got it. Oracle has products ready to go to run an entire country if it needs to. Sure, Postgres beats OracleDB, but Postgres doesn't integrate as well with Oracle Fusion and…
Oracle have a relatively big presence here and there’s a comfortable “mates” system that runs the Australia (soft bribery).
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It's legacy lock in. You can't just switch stuff. it's incredibly hard to move logic out of store procedures from on DB to another. Its the same reason why the US government runs on Cobol. People don't think about the strategic implication of the tech they choose and how it may come back to limit them in the future.
Most Oracle "shops" i know have used it for decades. When they started using it, there weren't many options, so Oracle was what was used. COBOL is in the same category. When invented, it was the absolute easiest programming language to learn and use, so of course it gained popularity. It then turned out to be rather good at what it did, along with running on hardware that "never fails", so most places didn't even thi…
It is more like young people not wanting to:
- throw their careers out of the window by pigeonholing themselves into zombieware tech
- experience high levels of stress trying to debug code older than their parents, writing code that can't be unit tested and pushing said code to production
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How do you know requirements or deadlines were a contributing factor here?
Because in 99% cases it is “when we succeed it’s a team effort, when we fail it’s the engineers”.
I don't understand why anyone buys Oracle. Every Oracle product I used over the last 15 years has been awful.
Oracle offers everything. Databases, web frameworks, programming languages, CRMs, cloud management tools, auto scaling clusters, identity management, BI, document search, email servers, colocation, mainframes, calendar sync. You name it, they've got it. Oracle has products ready to go to run an entire country if it needs to. Sure, Postgres beats OracleDB, but Postgres doesn't integrate as well with Oracle Fusion and…
Are we sure? I'm by no means a DBA, but DBA at our company (who is freaking smart btw) said if money wasn't an issue, he would actually go with OracleDB.