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Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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chii wrote: post #50
mbrumlow wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yah. But I would think the permissions would be a OS level thing that can’t be bypassed simply because Google also wrote the app.

it's very easy to imagine the scenario where this happens. Those photos may have already been uploaded to google's web servers (from my understanding, this happens with google photos by default?), from which a preview has been generated. The permission is at the android app level, and is requested at some point to ensure that the permission model is respected from the POV of the user. I can imagine the permission req…

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Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by TeMPOraL »

mbrumlow wrote: post #41
chii wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The team that wrote the preview portion of the app is a different team to the one that wrote the permission requesting part. They communicate asynchronously (as a team/org, but this probably is reflected in the app's architecture!), which means the outcome is eventually consistent! But you managed to observe one of those inconsistent cases!

Yah. But I would think the permissions would be a OS level thing that can’t be bypassed simply because Google also wrote the app.

Google Photos is not a mobile app. Google Photos is a SaaS webapp that happens to have a companion app for Android. Whatever OS-level settings affect the Android app itself, they have no bearing on what Google Photos the SaaS can or cannot do.

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by MartinGAugustin »

nandomrumber wrote: post #67
vlowrian wrote: post #62

As someone who prefers a solid color background, I’m always surprised by how often this simple preference leads me into bizarre rabbit holes. Some additional examples beyond the OP: - In the latest macOS, trying to set a custom solid color background just gives you a blinding white screen (see: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256029958?sortBy=rank ). - GNOME removed all UI controls for setting solid color backgr…

I recently acquired a ThinkStation P910 dual CPU Xeon E26xx with 64GB RAM and 1080GTX Quite a capable machine for my uses. Not supported in Windows 11. Maybe with some additional config? Can’t be bothered with something hat might turn out to be fragile and need more maintenance than I can be bothered with. That’s a young man’s gane. Ok, I’m about due to give Linux another tickle anyways. Hmm, which distro… can always…

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Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by loftsy »

nandomrumber wrote: post #67
vlowrian wrote: post #62

As someone who prefers a solid color background, I’m always surprised by how often this simple preference leads me into bizarre rabbit holes. Some additional examples beyond the OP: - In the latest macOS, trying to set a custom solid color background just gives you a blinding white screen (see: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256029958?sortBy=rank ). - GNOME removed all UI controls for setting solid color backgr…

I recently acquired a ThinkStation P910 dual CPU Xeon E26xx with 64GB RAM and 1080GTX Quite a capable machine for my uses. Not supported in Windows 11. Maybe with some additional config? Can’t be bothered with something hat might turn out to be fragile and need more maintenance than I can be bothered with. That’s a young man’s gane. Ok, I’m about due to give Linux another tickle anyways. Hmm, which distro… can always…

Just make a black png and use it as the background?

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by jodrellblank »

mzi wrote: post #60
bandrami wrote: post #58

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I've heard this was the secret to AWS's taking off twenty years ago: Bezos told the various teams they can only interact with each other as if they were vendors and customers to each other.

It was formulated a little different. But this was the 2002 mandate: 1. All teams will henceforth expose their data and functionality through service interfaces. 2. Teams must communicate with each other through these interfaces. 3. There will be no other form of interprocess communication allowed: no direct linking, no direct reads of another team’s data store, no shared-memory model, no back-doors whatsoever. The o…

Source: Steve Yegge’s “Amazon understand platforms and Google doesn’t” rant - copy found at https://gist.github.com/chitchcock/1281611 among others, since it was originally posted on Google+ and link-rotted.

Number 7 is a joke, etc.

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by cornholio »

necovek wrote: post #32

It's funny to see this: after avoiding the Windows world for the last 25 years, back in the corporate world in the last few, I see this pattern with Microsoft tools all the time. Teams not loading due to security issues, but notifications coming through with full content of messages. Ability to type a handful of words in cloud version of Word (or paste full documents) before security check catches up and requires me…

The most annoying one is that Windows machines have lost the ability for deep sleep. Laptops that slept perfectly 5 years ago are now left as 24/7 zombies, with the CPU, fans and hard disks running non stop.

I'm certain that some idiotic change just like the ones suggested in the article destroyed this perfectly working feature, and nobody is bothered to fix it because it would impact the latest harebrained scheme to make my 10 year laptop do AI in its sleep and suggest helpful ads about the things it couldn't help overhear while "sleeping".

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by rob74 »

chii wrote: post #39
Enginerrrd wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just MS. I think they might have fixed it now, but my personal favorite was when Google photos would send me a notification with a preview of an AI generated album of my photos they made for me even though the app did not now, nor ever have permissions (on Android) to look at said photos. And it too would then "catch up" and ask permission to see my files and I'd say "no" and then the preview would go away.

The team that wrote the preview portion of the app is a different team to the one that wrote the permission requesting part. They communicate asynchronously (as a team/org, but this probably is reflected in the app's architecture!), which means the outcome is eventually consistent! But you managed to observe one of those inconsistent cases!

Then maybe the default value for "permission to access photos" should be no, so they can only start accessing them after you give them permission. But yeah, with stuff like this it's always "opt-out", never "opt-in", unless someone forces them to...

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by est »

Offtopic I really liked the auto-refreshing "Windows Spotlight" wallpaper on logon screen. I even wrote a script to sync it as my desktop wallpaper.

But on my Win10 it stopped working idk why, so I wrote a script to download Bing Image of the Day instead: https://blog.est.im/2025/stdout-03

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by DHRicoF »

jve wrote: post #64
alex-mohr wrote: post #19

The code in question reminds me a lot of my favorite Kubernetes bug: if (request.authenticationData) { ok := validate(etc); if (!ok) { return authenticationFailure; } } Turns out the same meme spans decades.

Where can I read about the bug? And what is the bug? If there is no authenticationData it is authenticated by default or what?

I don't know where you can read about this, but you are in the good track

If there is no authenticationData then the if !Ok is never run and the code continues execution as it were authenticated.

Re: Why did Windows 7 log on slower for months if you had a solid color background?

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Post by xnx »

est wrote: post #88

Offtopic I really liked the auto-refreshing "Windows Spotlight" wallpaper on logon screen. I even wrote a script to sync it as my desktop wallpaper. But on my Win10 it stopped working idk why, so I wrote a script to download Bing Image of the Day instead: https://blog.est.im/2025/stdout-03

There's an official Bing Wallpaper App (https://www.bing.com/apps/wallpaper) for this, but it has all kinds of nuisances / dark patterns to switch your default browser to Edge and other nefarious things.
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