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Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

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Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

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post #17

These performance numbers look absolutely incredible. The MoE outperforms o1 with 3B active parameters? We're really getting close to the point where local models are good enough to handle practically every task that most people need to get done.

How do people typically do napkin math to figure out if their machine can “handle” a model?

Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

#22
post #17

These performance numbers look absolutely incredible. The MoE outperforms o1 with 3B active parameters? We're really getting close to the point where local models are good enough to handle practically every task that most people need to get done.

I'm dreaming of a time when commodity CPUs run LLMs for inference & serve at scale.

Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

#24
I’m most excited about Qwen-30B-A3B. Seems like a good choice for offline/local-only coding assistants.

Until now I found that open weight models were either not as good as their proprietary counterparts or too slow to run locally. This looks like a good balance.

Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

#25

Any news on some viable successor of LLMs that could take us to AGI? As I see they still can't solve some fundamental stuff to make it really work in any scenario (halucinations, reasoning, grounding in reality, updating long-term memory, etc.)

AGIs probably comes from neurosymbolic AI. But LLMs could be the neuro-part of that.

On the other hand, LLM progress feels like bullshit, gaming benchmarks and other problems occured. So either in two years all hail our AGI/AMI (machine intelligence) overlords, or the bubble bursts.

Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the link to huggingface is broken at the moment.

It's up now: https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen3-67dd247413f0e2... The space loads eventually as well; might just be that HF is under a lot of load.

Thank you!!

Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

#27

Any news on some viable successor of LLMs that could take us to AGI? As I see they still can't solve some fundamental stuff to make it really work in any scenario (halucinations, reasoning, grounding in reality, updating long-term memory, etc.)

> halucinations, reasoning, grounding in reality, updating long-term memory

They do improve on literally all of these, at incredible speed and without much sign of slowing down.

Are you asking for a technical innovation that will just get from 0 to perfect AI? That is just not how reality usually works. I don't see why of all things AI should be the exception.

Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

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post #15
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they have already worked with many community quant makers I’m curious, who are the community quant makers?

I had Unsloth[1] and Bartowski[2] in mind. Both said on Reddit that Qwen had allowed them access to weights before release to ensure smooth sailing. [1] https://huggingface.co/unsloth [2] https://huggingface.co/bartowski

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Re: Qwen3: Think deeper, act faster

#30
post #17

These performance numbers look absolutely incredible. The MoE outperforms o1 with 3B active parameters? We're really getting close to the point where local models are good enough to handle practically every task that most people need to get done.

How do people typically do napkin math to figure out if their machine can “handle” a model?

Wondering if I'll get corrected, but my _napkin math_ is looking at the model download size — I estimate it needs at least this amount of vram/ram, and usually the difference in size between various models is large enough not to worry if the real requirements are size +5% or 10% or 15%. LM studio also shows you which models your machine should handle
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