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Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#51
I'm starting to feel like we need a meta.news.ycombinator.com, for all this meta-discussion... I'm sure the politics are fascinating, but they feel the same as those of every online community since the dawn of the Internet... :p

Ah well, I guess I could just not click on them in my RSS.

Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#53
post #46

To be fair to Paul and the moderators, the title of this submission used to be: Goodbye, HACKER NEWS!!!! I'm going back to Reddit. I don't think this site was meant for everybody to post whatever they want. There should be respect for other people's resources; while Reddit and Digg want as many users as possible, there is no such leverage here. I think the mistake is that users start thinking they can do whatever the…

BTW nobody is posting porn here .. "whatever" is posted, is somehow related to startups/pragramming most of the times.

Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#54
post #46

To be fair to Paul and the moderators, the title of this submission used to be: Goodbye, HACKER NEWS!!!! I'm going back to Reddit. I don't think this site was meant for everybody to post whatever they want. There should be respect for other people's resources; while Reddit and Digg want as many users as possible, there is no such leverage here. I think the mistake is that users start thinking they can do whatever the…

BTW nobody is posting porn here .. "whatever" is posted, is somehow related to startups/pragramming most of the times.

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Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#55
post #18

I have two recommendations: 1. Have patience. 2. Be a part of the solution.

Are you suggesting that, if I'm patient enough, they'll change the focus of this back to startup news? 'Cuz I can get "hacker newz" at reddit/digg/slashdot/a-dozen-other-places...

And what "solution" should I be part of? The one that makes YC more money? Or the "sense of community"? I care squat about the YC community; I used to come here to read the startup articles. I can get arstechnica/lifehacker/etc links elsewhere.

Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#57
post #34

It's the final straw that we fix typos and abusive punctuation in submission titles? That seems a bit melodramatic. I'm surprised to think anyone didn't already realize we did this. Did you really think people on news.yc had that much better spelling than reddit users?

Why not spell-check the titles?

Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#58
post #7
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think this is sort of a dumb argument to get into in the first place, but you have to admit that not letting the original submitters to own their titles (when you allow them to own the resulting karma) is kind of inconsistent. Ultimately, though, this sort of user revolt is bound to happen whenever you make major changes to how a community works. I think news.yc'll make it with or without the people who ar…

".. not letting the original submitters to own their titles (when you allow them to own their resulting karma) is kind of inconsistent." I don't see how a user owns a title to content they didn't produce. If they produced it, the editors won't change it. You get karma for bringing quality content to other people's attention, not for calling the content something it isn't.

Well, I've personally had titles edited, all for stylistic issues (none for bias, innaccuracy, or anything I'd deem worth editing). I don't really care, but I would prefer that unless my submissions were clearly in need of correction that they were not changed. They do show up under "submissions" clicking from my profile, so I think they ought to reflect what I submitted unless it harms the site.

Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#59
post #55
post #18

I have two recommendations: 1. Have patience. 2. Be a part of the solution.

Are you suggesting that, if I'm patient enough, they'll change the focus of this back to startup news? 'Cuz I can get "hacker newz" at reddit/digg/slashdot/a-dozen-other-places... And what "solution" should I be part of? The one that makes YC more money? Or the "sense of community"? I care squat about the YC community; I used to come here to read the startup articles. I can get arstechnica/lifehacker/etc links elsewh…

1. "Have patience" means that you should avoid jumping to conclusions about what sort of content you were looking for out of this site, and to let "the dust settle" before leaping to conclusions about whether the new site suits you. If it's really that bad, you'll get bored and won't come anymore.

2. "Be a part of the solution" was really only half of what I intended to say, the other half being "stop being part of the problem." Being a part of the solution means voting up the articles you like, contributing knowledgeable and insightful commentary, and submitting the sort of stories you want to see. Being a part of the problem means throwing a temper tantrum without including any interesting or startup-related material.

Re: Goodbye, Hacker News. I'm going back to Reddit.

#60

Thing is, Reddit really sucks now. I was just visiting it today and was amazed by the number of ignoranuses (ignoranus = someone who is both stupid and an asshole) on it. I wonder if this is the eventual fate of all online communities. I've been through at least half a dozen now, and I've yet to see one survive as something other than trite, meaningless bullshit. The curious thing is - in at least one case (HP fandom…

"I wonder if this is the eventual fate of all online communities. I've been through at least half a dozen now, and I've yet to see one survive as something other than trite, meaningless bullshit." This is best described as "reversion to the mean". A democratic, non-moderated site like Reddit and News.YC will start off attracting folks on the right end of the bell curve, and over time, gain traction to attract the unw…

On the other hand, I've been a member of a loosely-moderated community for close to 7 years and it's still going strong (I think the forum first opened in 1999). There is a lot of what might be considered "trite" to a casual observer, but for those of us who have been reading and posting there for a long time we simply ignore the content we're not interested in. There's always enough good stuff to keep me going back.

It definitely was never overrun with ignoranuses, at least not for any extended period of time.

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