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Re: Internet in a Box

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I understand the main use-case, but wonder if there is another one: distracted, and social media exhausted Tech workers, or distracted writers, ... people who might not want to kill all access entirely but maintain accessibility to selected sources of information (Gutenberg, Wikipedia, anything that is on libgen lol).

Like an offline whitelist of sources you trust not to distract you while you're reading that 1000+ page book.

Re: Internet in a Box

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I'd love to see something like this that is marketed to parents or schools who want to give kids a way to access the good parts of the internet (Wikipedia, e-books, etc) without the toxic parts. Maybe throw in some kind of de-centralized social media or file sharing for collaboration with other students or like-minded families. Kiwix + Pi-hole + Activity Pub basically. The device could create its own network (that on…

Wikipedia qualifies as toxic Internet for many people for several reasons: it's heavily manipulated by political and corporate interests as part of their image polishing media strategy, the links that are used to provide credibility for articles are poorly curated and often broken, and the internal power (deciding which articles get heavily edited by invested interests etc.) structure of Wikipedia is mostly hidden fr…

> the links that are used to provide credibility for articles are poorly curated and often broken

I didn’t appreciate this until a few years ago when I got into the habit of going on deep dives to find primary sources. Easily half of all the sources I checked were either paywalled, out of print, or simply didn’t say what the Wikipedia article claimed they said.

Re: Internet in a Box

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Kiwix team is close on this, it’s even a partnership directly with Wikipedia to work on the newer APIs and function reliably.

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Re: Internet in a Box

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May I suggest somebody out of your company reviews the website. It is not clear to me what you do, what the apps do and so on. The copy is also kind of abstract "we make the world a better place" type of copy. From your comment I understand you do good work and would be a shame for people new to your products to struggle understanding what are you doing.

I don't agree with your assessment. Did you find the 'About Us' page insufficient?

it is often true that the people who made a thing are unable to adequately explain it to others, and think their own explanation works just fine. The site isn't self-explanatory.

Re: Internet in a Box

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It's been around since 2012 and the best Wikipedia has - "explored using these boxes in the Dominican Republic for three months." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-in-a-Box Where is a follow up study 3 years later? Are there any follow up studies [1]? (I have said in past comments the medical version might work, it failed in the Dominican Republic [1]) One follow up study - [1] https://www.sipa.columbia.edu/si…

I've spent the past 8 years focused on this theme, more or less, because my conclusion after finding things like internet on a box (and various similar projects) was that they offer too much information (and also present it in a useless manner). I've lived in many deeply impoverished communities, and they don't need a full version of Wikipedia, or a medical encyclopedia. They need to know how to easily and cheaply im…

Agreed - it's not all of wikipedia, it's the parts that matter. They could do this with much less storage. Maybe just an SD card in an old phone?

Re: Internet in a Box

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With the crazy news we have those past months, I actually started to wonder what would happen if internet went offline "for real" (let's say, several weeks) here in developed countries. I know we can easily download Wikipedia and Openstreetmap. But what else? And how to share it? I can do a hotspot home, but would my neighbors understand it? I would need some kind of captive portal to tell them when they connect to m…

AREDN can give you a mesh running standard internet protocols on fairly cheap hardware - they have firmware that can be flashed on small USB-powered GL-iNet devices such as Beryl: https://www.arednmesh.org/content/supported-devices-0 It's self-configuring, too - as soon as the node spins up, it will automatically find and connect to nearby nodes and start routing.

What would be lovely, is a giant repo of "every tool, firmware file, and documentation you might need, to reflash any random consumer router you might come across", completely offline and packaged up.

Because inevitably, you find a bunch of them after you've lost access.

Re: Internet in a Box

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post #110

So if I bought the $58 one from the Wikipedia Store... What exact solar products (panels, battery, converter?) would I need to buy, near Chicago, to run one of these 24/7, year round, and let's say it's gotta be up and running most of the time - say, 99% of the time. (That means it can be down over 3 days a year, and still be acceptable to me.)

I'm running a Raspberry Pi based GNSS receiver from a 26 Ah SLA battery and an 80W panel. Just passed 2 weeks of uptime in a cloudy period of southern hemisphere autumn. A monte carlo simulation using historical conditions said it had a ~95% chance of no downtime over 3 winter months. A slightly larger battery would bring that up to 99%. The Pi (3b+), GNSS reciever (u-blox ZED F9P), and Waveshare 7600G 4G modem avera…

Are you contributing to Galmon.eu? Sounds like you might be in a useful location.

Re: Internet in a Box

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post #198

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Do you think katabasis' proposal is unhealthy for a society? It strikes me as healthy for parents to keep their kids at ideological home during an information pandemic, to provide access to educational material and shelter from social media.

I think your original comment was mostly parsed as sarcastic.

Yes, that's how it read to me.

I.e., interpretation...

katabasis: (Suggests sensible guardrails for children)

fritzo: THOUGHT-POLICE!!

Re: Internet in a Box

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Volunteer for Kiwix here ( https://kiwix.org ), we do a lot of offline Wikipedia stuff. I've personally worked on MWOffliner ( https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner ) which scrapes MediaWikis, primarily Wikipedia. We have apps for basically every platform. Our PWA even supports IE 11! You can use the WP1 tool which I'm the primary maintainer of ( https://wp1.openzim.org/#/selections/user ) to create "selections" whic…

If I'm reading this right, the last full zim archive of all of english wikipedia is wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2024-01.zim which is now about 16 months old. Is that right, or is are another more recent sources? The current US administration is actively trying to interfere with Wikipedia and censor public speech or information that is detrimental to their disinformation campaign. [1] Do you know if there is an effort to pu…

Is there concern for AI-produced slop in Wikipedia? I have the 2024-01 version which may be out of date, but may also have less slop.
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