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Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Re: Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Do people forget how to drive if there are no lights? I can't imagine many people would think "well, there are no lights, which means GREEEEEEEN!". Over here, a traffic light that doesn't work means it's now a stop sign.

That's still a recipe for massive gridlock as treating most traffic junctions as stop signs doesn't scale unless there are traffic cops to manually direct traffic

I've never seen a traffic cop but I've driven past maybe fifty or a hundred broken or shutoff traffic lights, mainly in our largest city and never got stuck. Local law states that you give cars coming from the right precedence and the crossing self organises around that.

Re: Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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post #56

I am currently in my work office in Madrid, main building has electricity so I guess they have some backup generators, the kitchen however is out of service. According to local newspapers metro network, airport and traffic lights are all down

most office buildings have gas(methane) generator backup.

Re: Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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It looks like the Iberian peninsula is relatively isolated from the rest of the CESA synchronous grid, with only 2% cross-border capacity compared to local generation. [1]

There's a map at [2]

> The Spanish electricity system is currently connected to the systems of France, Portugal, Andorra and Morocco. The exchange capacity of this interconnection is around 3 GW, which represents a low level of interconnection for the peninsula. The international interconnection level is calculated by comparing the electricity exchange capacity with other countries with the generation capacity or installed power.

[1] https://www.ree.es/en/ecological-transition/electricity-inte...

[2] https://www.entsoe.eu/data/map/

Re: Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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Spain has 49 million people, which is a lot, but not 80 million. (plus 11 million of Portugal for a total of 60 million people in the Iberian Peninsula)

ok so just remove times two then XD

Re: Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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> "I currently don't have any internet service and just €15 in my wallet - I can't withdraw any money from the ATM," she added.

from: https://news.sky.com/story/large-parts-of-spain-and-portugal...

This is literally the whistleblowers about cashless society have been warning everyone about for well over a decade now.

Re: Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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post #110

I saw it on twitter and had to go to BBC to make sure this isn't some joke or hoax. 2025 and we have National level power cuts? I know it may be rare but I think some day we really need to move or mandate every single flat / home / apartment / living places to have a 12 - 24 hours backup battery included. Something that has 10K+ Cycles, durable and non-flammable. Not only does it make sure our modern lives without su…

Mandate a battery backup. Instead of requiring the power suppliers to build and maintain reliable energy. That is just shifting someone else's mistake into being my responsibility.

People seem to love those expensive solutions though.

I know so many people who invested in overly expensive battery storage systems for their solar. Power in Germany is expensive, but even with that expensive power many of those battery systems will never hit a positive ROI. But they’re still happy for the feeling of being „independent“.

I’ll turn 26 in a few months. The first time I experienced a power outage in my life was two weeks ago when a construction worker in our basement drilled into the wrong wall…

Re: Widespread power outage in Spain and Portugal

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post #164

It looks like the Iberian peninsula is relatively isolated from the rest of the CESA synchronous grid, with only 2% cross-border capacity compared to local generation. [1] There's a map at [2] > The Spanish electricity system is currently connected to the systems of France, Portugal, Andorra and Morocco. The exchange capacity of this interconnection is around 3 GW, which represents a low level of interconnection for…

Edit : I was misreading the confusing Rte site... Entsoe actually a lot more readable. France went from importing to exporting around the incident.

https://www.rte-france.com/eco2mix/les-echanges-commerciaux-...

https://transparency.entsoe.eu/transmission-domain/physicalF...

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