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Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by hollandheese »

i80and wrote: post #12
analog31 wrote: post #4

An interesting thing is that I've observed a lot less speeding over the years, as more cars acquire active cruise control. Correlation or causation? Who knows. I don't think enforcement has changed.

The biggest change for me I've noticed is I'm vastly less likely to speed with a digital speedometer than with a dial spedometer. Adaptive cruise control also helps a lot (I was never particularly a speed demon in the first place though)

I think a partial reason for that is a ton of cars put 80 in the middle of the dial speedometer. So, it's bizarrely easier to see your speed accurately if you're going over the speed limit.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by aunty_helen »

robocat wrote: post #243

We need to discourage dangerous drivers. I am hoping we get personal in-car police cameras. I see dangerous driving regularly, and yet there is no easy way to report drivers. Today a truck cut back in from a turning lane and cut off the car in front of me causing an emergency braking situation for everyone driving behind. Perhaps there could also be AI auto-detect of thoughtless driving that auto-sends a simple video…

Ok, in that case should we also explore ticketing drivers that are less skilled to a point they’re much more likely to cause an accident?

What about those that drive less safe cars for themselves/other drivers/pedestrians?

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Post by duped »

blendo wrote: post #152

I’ve seen cars improve a lot over that last 10-20 years. Faster, smoother, quieter, and safer, they can cruise all day at 80-90 mph. Sadly, this is completely incompatible with 25 mph city speed limits. Thus, the need for engineering kludges like automotive speed limiters. I’d really like a new vehicle classification, perhaps along the lines of Medium Speed Electric Vehicles. Designed with a top speed of 40 to 45 mph…

My hybrid SUV halves its mileage over 40-45 mph which is enough incentive for me not to be a maniac. I treat the average mpg as a game, trying to maximize it for my driving pattern.

Sucks when I have long stretches on the highway though.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by adrr »

GuB-42 wrote: post #205

There are cars that can go way over 100 mph, and they almost all speed controlled by software. High performance cars are often speed limited by software to about 150 mph. How is this legal? Cars with speed limits that high belong to the track, not public roads, with a possible exception for emergency vehicles. There are some rare (emergency) situations where "superspeeding" might help, but I can think of many others…

How will my road legal car know when it’s on a track or a closed road? Some how putting a way to disable it defeats the purpose. If its GPS controlled, people will be spoofing GPS to remove the limit, just need a raspberry pie and some other components. You’ll have unintended consequences.

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Post by tabender »

robocat wrote: post #243

We need to discourage dangerous drivers. I am hoping we get personal in-car police cameras. I see dangerous driving regularly, and yet there is no easy way to report drivers. Today a truck cut back in from a turning lane and cut off the car in front of me causing an emergency braking situation for everyone driving behind. Perhaps there could also be AI auto-detect of thoughtless driving that auto-sends a simple video…

> I am hoping we get personal in-car police cameras.

What are you actually imagining this would look like?

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by hollandheese »

vkou wrote: post #94
lokar wrote: post #20

Better street designs is a better approach. Narrower lanes, physical barriers for pedestrians, roundabouts, etc

Pretty sure the shithead that killed a family in King County two years ago, while doing 110 in a 40 zone (after already wrecking two cars) didn't give two figs about street design. Casual speeders would benefit from better street engineering. Excessive speeders don't care. They just don't understand the concept of consequences. A speed governor would have likely saved four lives, and that 18-year old man from a 17 ye…

Honestly that just seems more of a case that 18 year olds shouldn't be allowed to drive. If you're not old enough to smoke or drink alcohol, you're not old enough to operate heavy machinery that can kill people.

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Post by AlexandrB »

amiga386 wrote: post #63
_bin_ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This would be incredibly annoying. You what, have to tow your car to a track if you want to race? So now you need two vehicles? Given that outright street racing is common amongst blue-collar or inner-city demographics, this is an unrealistic expectation that will just push more people away from legal venues. It's a policy that says "you can't enjoy your hobby" in disguise that shows disregard for others' preferences…

I don't know how much racing you do, but as far as I've seen, racers do tow their race cars to the track. They rent or own tow trailers and transporters. Race cars are usually heavily modified and aren't street legal, and the drivers don't want them dinged up on the way to the track, and if they fail while racing they need a way to get it back home. If you're racing a street-legal car on a track... it's unlikely to b…

It's a spectrum. If you're really serious you buy a trailer and all that. But people do bring their street legal cars to the track all the time. Either because they go to the track as an occasional hobby or they don't have the money to shell out for a second car just for racing (i.e. they're young).

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Post by AlexandrB »

usefulcat wrote: post #235
dataflow wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No. No one is 'forced' to exceed the limit, not remotely, You never get tailgated when you go too slow? People do it all the time and it's dangerous as heck.

If you're in the left lane and being tailgated, then it's your fault, if there is no one in front of you. If you're in the right lane and being tailgated, it's the fault of the tailgater. There's a reason why some states have traffic signs that state "left lane for passing only".

It's always the fault of the tailgater. There are other ways to ask someone to move over like flashing your high beams. Tailgating just creates a dangerous situation.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by loeg »

viraptor wrote: post #104
progman32 wrote: post #67

A page linked from the article ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zLaBRWMSSnjGzMOpoZwUSw_H... ) cites a $4/day rental fee for the equipment, which works out to roughly $120/month. I understand there are assistance programs promised by the article. Can someone in the space help me understand this pricing model? Seems high to me. The faq also claims there are no civil liberties implications for this since people use…

> Can someone in the space help me understand this pricing model? "You're effectively forced to pay, so we'll make it as high as the system can bear" model. Kind of like the prison calls, etc.

And breathalyzer interlocks, of course.
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