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Re: Internet in a Box

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This seems to be the Wikipedia webpage for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-in-a-Box

There's also a longer overview here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Internet-in-a-Box

And (when supplies return) you can get one in a 3d-printed box with Wikipedia pre-installed here: https://store.wikimedia.org/products/internet-in-a-box

Sustained by a wonderful international community of builders, authors, and translators (and always looking for more to join in)

Re: Internet in a Box

#72

This is cool but I feel like buying a 1000 count of cheap USB sticks and loading them with wikipedia or whatever would be cheaper and more useful.

At the least you need storage for the content ($10-20), and a physical device to read it off of ($20-40). If your community has lots of computers with no wireless antennas (old servers), USB keys that can be passed around make sense. If you have lots of mobile devices with wireless (phones or tablets), a hotspot like this makes sense and can be used by dozens of people at once.

In practice USB keys run a slightly higher risk of being wiped and repurposed for personal storage. Some IIAB users glue the SD card into their socket for that reason, making it take a lot longer to swap out.

Re: Internet in a Box

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I’ve encountered a few instances (mostly friends) who have done similar ideas. Around 2007 - 2012 (ish) many corners of India were yet to have access to the Internet (Jio hasn't introduced super cheap, almost free Internet). A few friends did like download Wikipedia and take it to these corners and teach kids.

In my case, a friend/colleague Freeman Murray,[1] had that idea and I told him I will try in my hometown (one of the most remote corner of India). We did and I got a few young kids to be the maintainer, have a few desktop (not Laptop) that they carry around and watch videos to learn to program. It was good while it lasted. Now, those isolated places that I was scared to go alone when I was a kid have fiber Internet connections.

On a fun note, I do have a picture of an "Internet in a Box". This was Detroit in the mid 2000s. https://www.flickr.com/photos/brajeshwar/113742187/in/album-...

1. https://www.mars.college

Re: Internet in a Box

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post #58

I wonder if Starlink et al won't soon solve the global internet access problem.

Every such provider likes to play games with who they give good rates to or who they exclude altogether from their network. People said the same about cellular access and it's still far too expensive for most people in most rural areas.

Re: Internet in a Box

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post #34

I want this but an LLM.

OpenwebUI and you can run quantized or low end models (Llama 3 4b or gemma 4b) on a 4-6gb graphic card. It's a game changer to run local (no usage caps for a weekend blitz project)

I played with gemma-3-4b-it-qat recently using a mid-tier graphics card and a few things stood out to me:

1. It was very fast, between 35 and 70 tokens per second, with initial response in under 200ms. That kind of speed is a feature.

2. It was very useful. I had a brainstorming session with it that was both fluid and fruitful

3. I can't wrap my head around so much knowledge being contained in about 3GB of data. It seems to know something about everything. Imperfect, but very useful.

Re: Internet in a Box

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> PrepperDisk is similar to a DIY, open-source project that started in 2012 called Internet in a Box and which has become popular in rural areas in developing countries where internet access is sparse. The idea is basically that you can carry around an external hard drive-sized, mini version of the internet with you that creates a local network your phone or laptop can access. > https://www.404media.co/sales-of-hard-…

We are actually IIAB partners, we attribute to all the various OOS projects (Kiwix, IIAB)in our credits and comply with all the licensing. Our goal was just to make those packages polished as a consumer product and add newer content (some licensed and some commissioned ).

Curious why you went with a 512GB SD card for the Prepperdisk, instead of a usb drive? I guess it might make the enclosure bigger, but every RPi thing I have built has been undone by SD card corruption (unless I used the overlay filesystem).

Re: Internet in a Box

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post #28

With the crazy news we have those past months, I actually started to wonder what would happen if internet went offline "for real" (let's say, several weeks) here in developed countries. I know we can easily download Wikipedia and Openstreetmap. But what else? And how to share it? I can do a hotspot home, but would my neighbors understand it? I would need some kind of captive portal to tell them when they connect to m…

I wonder if it is possible to have some kind of P2P protocol similar to BitTorrent where one can seed incremental snapshots of subsets of the internet. Something like the internet archive, but fully decentralized.

Sounds like something r/datahoarders would be / may already be into.

Re: Internet in a Box

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've gone a step further, I have built a 50 TB NAS and I'm loading up as much as I possibly can.

I’d love some detail on your setup. Which NAS, which drives? Key data sets? (Would love to build one myself)

I have 4 Seagate Exos X18 14TB drives crammed into a JONSBO N2 Black NAS ITX Case. 2 TBs of SSDs, and 64 GB of RAM. (Going to double the ram soon)
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