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Some of us are not billionaires.
Freedom has never been free.
That’s not what that means
Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
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Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
I observed a clean experiment that showed a friend’s Google Pixel phone listening to us and adjusting news stories on Google app’s home screen. However: — IIRC the phone was unlocked, — this only affected the news feed, and — this was 5–6 years ago. We 1) noted how Google app shows some selection of news after opening, 2) talked clearly for a minute about a very random and conspicuous topic in presence of the unlocke…
This was a coincidence. That’s why it’s something you observed one time 5-6 years ago, not something that happens repeatedly in a testable way.
Isn’t it more likely it’s not a coincidence though?
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
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It's a crime that were compelled to concede our 4th Amendment rights in order to travel.
It literally says right on the facial recognition sign that you're free to opt out, just let the TSA employee know
Yup,people are really good about it in my experience too. I just stand off to the side of the camera, and say "no biometrics please". They take a minute to check my documents and it's done. Try it.
I trust the TSA agents brain to not get hacked in the next 24 hours, a database run by them, not so much.
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
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Certainly not unreasonable. But it does require you to commission your own transport subject to the rules that that private entity seeks to impose. Public entities which indiscriminately service residents and visitors of a given territory would obviate this requirement. But if you're in the US, good luck convincing taxpayers to agree to pay for that.
> subject to the rules that that private entity seeks to impose. It's not the private entity taking a 3D face scan, nor are they necessarily wanting for that scan to be taken. It's federal laws and regulations being done by federal agents in spaces controlled by the federal government.
TSA is not a government organization. Neither is Boeing nor any of the airline carriers.
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. They 100% do not share an interest in ear wax removal, or had a medical need of that nature. Why do you think I would put up a comment on HN of all places, with this degree of confidence. > tested with other ads… If I knew that this , was going to be needed to study, 5 years into the future, I would have conducted a double blind study. Sadly I could not, however, it’s still fun, so we can always replicate. The q…
I was kidding… Of course you and your friends share some demographics and interests—- making it unsurprising that you’d get similar ads. > The question is, have you found a horrid ad yet? Side note, this was in the UK The question is, why does it have to be a horrid ad? Does the phone only listen for things about horrid ads to show you? You have to know that your phone isn’t listening to you right? That it’s just a c…
man, without getting into the specifics, the vast difference in medical habits because of gender, activity levels, and the fact that I had an unusual condition which caused me to look into this, ITS EARWAX removal for fs sake.
What, are you saying that there is an ASMR or god knows what community that focuses on ear wax?
I never got those ads in my LIFE, until I had a medical need. Have you?
>why does it have to be a horrid ad?
Because I choose horrid ads to mess with my friends? You could try for adult teletubbies, lord knows that might exist. Whatever floats your boat, I say.
You seem to have some horse in this race, or some larger level of commitment than the simple joy of messing around with this should entail.
And holy hell, I had an example of a medical condition, an ad, in the UK, discussed in a bloody field, with no towers or other devices to listen in, and the other person did not have the same medical condition.
And yet this is not enough. And all you have to do with this, is try it out yourself. Hell - I am even suggesting this in a manner that is open to being a fun lark with friends.
I am by far the largest black hole of joy amongst the stellar folk in my orbit. This converastion is invigorating, in that you are near certainly part of my tribe.
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
#296What rot. Here’s a simple experiment I ran and still works. Back in the day there was a truly ghastly add for ear wax removal that showed up on YouTube in the UK. In an experiment, and prank, I told two of my close friends about this, and how this horrid advert would kill my appetite when it came up. And then I made it a point to repeat “ear wax removal” loudly several times. Sure enough. A day later my dear friend m…
Or you told your friend about this horrible ad and they looked it up without thinking and got added to the retargeting list.
She wouldn't because she has much better things to do in life. Matter of fact, its an ad you would never look at, just because you don't even have a need for it.
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
> subject to the rules that that private entity seeks to impose. It's not the private entity taking a 3D face scan, nor are they necessarily wanting for that scan to be taken. It's federal laws and regulations being done by federal agents in spaces controlled by the federal government.
TSA is not a government organization. Neither is Boeing nor any of the airline carriers.
TSA is absolutely a government organization, it's a part of the Department of Homeland Security. It was created by an act of Congress, the Aviation and Transportation Security Act. You might as well argue the IRS or FBI or the US Marshalls aren't a government organization. What about absolutely absurd thing to suggest.
> The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is an agency of the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that has authority over the security of transportation systems within and connecting to the United States.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_Security_Admi...
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
> subject to the rules that that private entity seeks to impose. It's not the private entity taking a 3D face scan, nor are they necessarily wanting for that scan to be taken. It's federal laws and regulations being done by federal agents in spaces controlled by the federal government.
TSA is not a government organization. Neither is Boeing nor any of the airline carriers.
TSA is not government organization as much as Pentagon is not :)
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
For all of these reasons, audio snooping is much more likely to be something done by wired, stationary devices that maybe have a decent amount of RAM + a fair bit of usually-idle processing capacity (to run the transcription model locally and just push the resulting text), and which are expected to draw a decent amount of power and use the Internet at vaguely-arbitrary times. Like a smart TV, for example.
First thing I do is disable that feature on every TV I buy. Second thing I do is block the TV access to internet after I do one firmware update.
Why bother with one firmware update?
Re: Your phone isn't secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
First thing I do is disable that feature on every TV I buy. Second thing I do is block the TV access to internet after I do one firmware update.
Why bother with one firmware update?
Why both with any once it’s working fine?
I figure they will reset my no microphone preferences mostly, or make it only work when online someday.
Anyhow, ain’t broke, don’t fix it!