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We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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No, I operate under the assumption that advertisers can scam gullible users. From casinos, to shady inexistent job offers, to malware, there's a whole world of -ads- targeting the final users as a victim

> There are ads running on Youtube right now that deepfake some celebrity to sell crypto. replying to myself bc i can't to @ujkhsjkdhf234 on x.com (formerly twitter) if you don't paid for premium you get ads for drainers and scams on crypto etc too it's overall a mess tbh, I never trusted nor liked marketing or advertising, it's just lies in disguise.

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Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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The funny thing is that we fought so hard against pop-ups throughout the 90's and 2000's only to re-implement pop-ups in javascript as soon as we could.

At least, generally, they no longer open hundreds of windows above or below the current window, which may or may not have browser control bars, may ‘warn’ on exit etc etc If a page wants to cover itself in noise and dialogues, sure it’s annoying but it’s not quite on the same level as back then.

Remember how wild pop-ups on the early web could be: https://youtu.be/LSgk7ctw1HY

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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I have been groaning about income inequality a lot but it is amazing how much of this can be explained by it. People do not have the disposable income to spend on services so you make people pay with attention. Give them the carrot for free so they don't notice. On top of that, the product is free so there is no expectation of support for the end user. You're getting it for free so what are you complaining about?

What would be the point of showing an ad to someone without disposable income?

Some examples, with varying levels of predation:

An ad for Pampers shown to a family with a toddler; an ad for Tidy Cats shown to a cat owner; an ad for Reese’s shown to someone who exhibits poor impulse control; an ad for McDonald’s shown to someone who works two jobs and doesn’t have time to cook food for themselves; an ad for a gambling app shown to someone using a gambling app.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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I would say communism is the final degree of "government as provider" not of "government as regulator". The final degree of regulation could be any variety of authoritarianism.

Much better to have capitalism replace political tyranny with economic tyranny. Where survival depends on serving someone else's profit with the requirement their margin grows every year. When markets control basic needs, capitalism becomes its own form of authoritarianism that forces everyone to self comply. But it's freedom because they voluntarily choose to not starve to death/be homeless.

It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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I have been groaning about income inequality a lot but it is amazing how much of this can be explained by it. People do not have the disposable income to spend on services so you make people pay with attention. Give them the carrot for free so they don't notice. On top of that, the product is free so there is no expectation of support for the end user. You're getting it for free so what are you complaining about?

What would be the point of showing an ad to someone without disposable income?

Propaganda

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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At least, generally, they no longer open hundreds of windows above or below the current window, which may or may not have browser control bars, may ‘warn’ on exit etc etc If a page wants to cover itself in noise and dialogues, sure it’s annoying but it’s not quite on the same level as back then.

Remember how wild pop-ups on the early web could be: https://youtu.be/LSgk7ctw1HY

Computing history is rife with examples of APIs that would never have existed, had the API designer stepped back for a few seconds and asked himself "Why am I letting developers do this?" Someone deliberately added the ability to move the browser window around and pop up other browser windows, yet somehow never imagined this use case???
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