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We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #101

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What would be the point of showing an ad to someone without disposable income?

They might not have enough disposable income to pay for software but enough to pay for whatever is on the ad. More generally, if the service is free, you're the product, and you're being sold to someone else

Both yours and your sibling comments seem to be operating under the assumption that all advertisers are some kind of idiots

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #34

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Please excuse my ignorance, but what is the superior way? Pi-Hole?

I have found a really amazing way to block ads on websites. It's by not visiting them in the first place. Imagine how well this could work. It's sort of like abstinence and chastity rather than contraception. "Oh you know I love you, let me just have a little for free, and not worry so much about consequences, baby!" Also I found this amazing hack for YouTube and YT Music. I am nearly hesitant to write it down here,…

Nothing wrong with paying for a commercial service. I rather pay with money than indirectly by losing time and being annoyed in the best case and manipulated in the worst case.

With the sites that I choose to not visit (Facebook, X, TikTok, Instagram) this is not possible, as the attempted manipulation of users is an integral part of the business model.

Also, your attempt of being funny is not working, neither is your metaphor.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might not have enough disposable income to pay for software but enough to pay for whatever is on the ad. More generally, if the service is free, you're the product, and you're being sold to someone else

Both yours and your sibling comments seem to be operating under the assumption that all advertisers are some kind of idiots

No, I operate under the assumption that advertisers can scam gullible users.

From casinos, to shady inexistent job offers, to malware, there's a whole world of -ads- targeting the final users as a victim

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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I feel like these issues can be countered by a reasoning AI that runs locally and I can configure to operate in my best interest. e.g, Filter out political posts on X. Fact check opinion videos on the fly. I hope future computing devices will have neutal engine at the center, and CPU as secondary. And I should be able to teach it to take actions on my behalf.

Seems like a good use of energy. Waste tons of energy sending ads to everyone, and waste even more energy defeating them with an energy-expensive LLM.

energy is abundant.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #28

My way to circumvent most of this: I am using Safari with AdBlock Pro and AdBlock and see zero ads when browsing the web. I spend more time on YouTube than I care to admit, so I got a Premium subscription, bought an extension called UnTrap for YouTube to hide most recommendations and turned off all YouTube history etc. I regularly visit BlueSky, Hacker News and YouTube, but not X, TikTok, Instagram or Facebook. The h…

For some reason Albania gets no ads on YT. Route your YT packets over to Albania and done.

NextDNS works very well on iOS for everything else.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Isn't that like being wowed by people who pay to have their car oil changed, instead of doing it themselves?

Yes, plus I wonder how "responsibly" do people who replace their car oil, dispose the old oil. One of the reasons I don't do it myself, is.. 'what the hell do I do with the old oil?' I know someone that parks/aims right over a grill that is there for the rain water, and all the bad/old oil goes straight there. I ain't no angel, but that person is an absolute cunt. So.. I really hope that the garages that throughout m…

In my town, UK, you go to the local landfill and there is a tank to pour it in.

I just leave it in the shed in the bottle until I have enough other stuff to get rid of and do it all at once.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #101

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They might not have enough disposable income to pay for software but enough to pay for whatever is on the ad. More generally, if the service is free, you're the product, and you're being sold to someone else

Both yours and your sibling comments seem to be operating under the assumption that all advertisers are some kind of idiots

Advertisers have a perverse incentive to spend as much ad money as possible. I think this is one of the few scenarios where you can attribute something to malice.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #133

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Both yours and your sibling comments seem to be operating under the assumption that all advertisers are some kind of idiots

No, I operate under the assumption that advertisers can scam gullible users. From casinos, to shady inexistent job offers, to malware, there's a whole world of -ads- targeting the final users as a victim

There are ads running on Youtube right now that deepfake some celebrity to sell crypto.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #133

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Both yours and your sibling comments seem to be operating under the assumption that all advertisers are some kind of idiots

No, I operate under the assumption that advertisers can scam gullible users. From casinos, to shady inexistent job offers, to malware, there's a whole world of -ads- targeting the final users as a victim

> There are ads running on Youtube right now that deepfake some celebrity to sell crypto.

replying to myself bc i can't to @ujkhsjkdhf234

on x.com (formerly twitter) if you don't paid for premium you get ads for drainers and scams on crypto etc too

it's overall a mess tbh, I never trusted nor liked marketing or advertising, it's just lies in disguise.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #112
post #28

My way to circumvent most of this: I am using Safari with AdBlock Pro and AdBlock and see zero ads when browsing the web. I spend more time on YouTube than I care to admit, so I got a Premium subscription, bought an extension called UnTrap for YouTube to hide most recommendations and turned off all YouTube history etc. I regularly visit BlueSky, Hacker News and YouTube, but not X, TikTok, Instagram or Facebook. The h…

You are not circumventing the most troubling aspect of all this, which is that the content itself is perverted by its monetization model.

Yes. This is visible on news sites. The title and lede are rewritten as clickbait. The actual story may not be so bad. On some sites, the title on the home page may not match the article. Yesterday there was "(something happened) in Red State" on Fox News on the home page, but the actual article begins "(something happened) in Florida".
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