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Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Seems like a good use of energy. Waste tons of energy sending ads to everyone, and waste even more energy defeating them with an energy-expensive LLM.

But it will be ok. Ads already stimulate over-consumption and thereby destroy the climate/planet. With an AI acting against that perhaps it will stop.

I mean adblockers are pretty good, does that stop ads? No they just find ways to circumvent and it's a cat and mouse game.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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It's a funny little causal chain.

Everybody just wants a peaceful, prosperous life.

We serve a corporation, because the corporation promises that.

The corporation just wants advertising. That is, clicks.

So the universal desire for peace and prosperity is bringing about the clicky dystopia.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it will be ok. Ads already stimulate over-consumption and thereby destroy the climate/planet. With an AI acting against that perhaps it will stop.

I mean adblockers are pretty good, does that stop ads? No they just find ways to circumvent and it's a cat and mouse game.

If most humans can tell it's an ad, then so can an AI. Probably ...

In fact most counties have laws saying that advertisements should be clearly identifiable as such. Not to an AI, but still.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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It’s fine for you if you like it. The problem is that ubiquitous ads pollute the attention of those of us who don’t like it. Would have been a much different (and better) world if the early web established micro-payments as a way of funding content and platforms. For example I’m happy to pay for YouTube premium to avoid the bloody ads, though I respect the preferences of those who enjoy the ads…

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They don't sound upset at all to me. In fact, they are saying they are fine with you having your world view. To be fair, you acted upon your feelings enough to engage in discussion.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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I feel like these issues can be countered by a reasoning AI that runs locally and I can configure to operate in my best interest. e.g, Filter out political posts on X. Fact check opinion videos on the fly. I hope future computing devices will have neutal engine at the center, and CPU as secondary. And I should be able to teach it to take actions on my behalf.

Seems like a good use of energy. Waste tons of energy sending ads to everyone, and waste even more energy defeating them with an energy-expensive LLM.

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Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #22

It's a funny little causal chain. Everybody just wants a peaceful, prosperous life. We serve a corporation, because the corporation promises that. The corporation just wants advertising. That is, clicks. So the universal desire for peace and prosperity is bringing about the clicky dystopia.

Hey, make an artificial intelligent entity significantly more capable than any individual human, then be surprised you have a goal misalignment with your superagent.

We gave AI legal personhood in the 1800s and we were doomed from there

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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My way to circumvent most of this: I am using Safari with AdBlock Pro and AdBlock and see zero ads when browsing the web.

I spend more time on YouTube than I care to admit, so I got a Premium subscription, bought an extension called UnTrap for YouTube to hide most recommendations and turned off all YouTube history etc.

I regularly visit BlueSky, Hacker News and YouTube, but not X, TikTok, Instagram or Facebook.

The hardest thing is to not use Amazon, but I am working on it.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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“Your outie loves watching State Farm commercials.”

Matrix XVIII: Let's try it again, why is kryptonite not working this time? Halp

C'mon. You will need to grow up real fast. Learn to use the references, not just throw them around.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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post #28

My way to circumvent most of this: I am using Safari with AdBlock Pro and AdBlock and see zero ads when browsing the web. I spend more time on YouTube than I care to admit, so I got a Premium subscription, bought an extension called UnTrap for YouTube to hide most recommendations and turned off all YouTube history etc. I regularly visit BlueSky, Hacker News and YouTube, but not X, TikTok, Instagram or Facebook. The h…

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