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We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Post by 2099miles »

AvAn12 wrote: post #7
alganet wrote: post #3

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It’s fine for you if you like it. The problem is that ubiquitous ads pollute the attention of those of us who don’t like it. Would have been a much different (and better) world if the early web established micro-payments as a way of funding content and platforms. For example I’m happy to pay for YouTube premium to avoid the bloody ads, though I respect the preferences of those who enjoy the ads…

^ Exactly Ads are 100% fine I just want the option to pay to avoid them. Like black mirror I think had an episode or some movie had it where you watch an ad instead of paying for a bus ticket and that’s totally fine, cuz right now there is no alternative to paying for a bus ticket.

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AvAn12 wrote: post #7
alganet wrote: post #3

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It’s fine for you if you like it. The problem is that ubiquitous ads pollute the attention of those of us who don’t like it. Would have been a much different (and better) world if the early web established micro-payments as a way of funding content and platforms. For example I’m happy to pay for YouTube premium to avoid the bloody ads, though I respect the preferences of those who enjoy the ads…

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Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Post by everdrive »

justanotheratom wrote: post #8

I feel like these issues can be countered by a reasoning AI that runs locally and I can configure to operate in my best interest. e.g, Filter out political posts on X. Fact check opinion videos on the fly. I hope future computing devices will have neutal engine at the center, and CPU as secondary. And I should be able to teach it to take actions on my behalf.

Seems like a good use of energy. Waste tons of energy sending ads to everyone, and waste even more energy defeating them with an energy-expensive LLM.

Re: We're building a dystopia just to make people click on ads [video]

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Post by 1oooqooq »

eesmith wrote: post #9

Pohl and Kornbluth in 1952 wrote "The Space Merchants" - "a novel of the future when advertising agencies take over." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Merchants

you will like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government

also, the premise of the entire lore of shadow run, is corporations building armies and seeing they can get away with it and then just doubling down.

but back to reality... everyone would buy stock of the ad-dystopia and since now their retirement is tired to it they will just normalize and promote it. just like today.

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Post by notpushkin »

everdrive wrote: post #14
justanotheratom wrote: post #8

I feel like these issues can be countered by a reasoning AI that runs locally and I can configure to operate in my best interest. e.g, Filter out political posts on X. Fact check opinion videos on the fly. I hope future computing devices will have neutal engine at the center, and CPU as secondary. And I should be able to teach it to take actions on my behalf.

Seems like a good use of energy. Waste tons of energy sending ads to everyone, and waste even more energy defeating them with an energy-expensive LLM.

Sadly, we can’t just trust everybody else not to try and pull one over us. (Fortunately, uBlock Origin still works and is fairly lightweight, and hopefully we won’t see native ads so indistinguishable from content that it can’t detect those for a while.)

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Post by amelius »

everdrive wrote: post #14
justanotheratom wrote: post #8

I feel like these issues can be countered by a reasoning AI that runs locally and I can configure to operate in my best interest. e.g, Filter out political posts on X. Fact check opinion videos on the fly. I hope future computing devices will have neutal engine at the center, and CPU as secondary. And I should be able to teach it to take actions on my behalf.

Seems like a good use of energy. Waste tons of energy sending ads to everyone, and waste even more energy defeating them with an energy-expensive LLM.

But it will be ok. Ads already stimulate over-consumption and thereby destroy the climate/planet. With an AI acting against that perhaps it will stop.
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