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Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Re: Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Post by 6stringmerc »

europeanNyan wrote: post #35
Sindisil wrote: post #28

Who is "we", Kimosabe? Personally, I have no time for gen-AI in pretty much any context, at least given the current landscape. And plenty of people seem to accept, if not love, gen-AI art. I don't get it, but it's true. > While browsing YouTube, an AI-generated video appeared and I reflexively told my wife, “That’s AI—skip it.” My reflex whenever I encounter gen-AI output in any form: text, code, image, music, video,…

> And plenty of people seem to accept, if not love, gen-AI art. I don't get it, but it's true. I get a kick out of generating photos with family and friends in different styles like Play-Doh, Simpsons, Ghibli, etc. All of them like it, too. Maybe that's what people like, a very relatable use of the technology.

It’s also a shortcut to self gratification and wish fulfillment by way of appropriating or poaching the success and value created by others for personal amusement or satisfaction, so there’s that part worth mentioning.

Re: Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Post by happytoexplain »

internet2000 wrote: post #30
dawnerd wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single non tech person I know hates AI. Even my tech friends are turning against it.

You are in a bubble, most likely.

It's extremely polarizing. Dismissing anybody's experience as "being in a bubble" is misguided on this topic, not to mention disrespectful.

Re: Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Post by elpocko »

crooked-v wrote: post #45
aDyslecticCrow wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I see AI art in a graphic novel, I'll stop reading and downvote it.

It's also weird to me, like... I've used AI art a lot for tabletop RPGs. The level of actual creative control isn't great, even for what should be an easy case of one character in profile against a blank background. Even if you know how to use it well you're wrestling the systems involved to try and produce consistent output ot anything unusual. And that's fine for Orc #3 or Elf Lord Soandso, which are only going to…

AI art is not limited to writing a prompt and hoping for the best. There's a multitude of ways to control the generation: img2img, ControlNet, Openpose, InstantID and several other techniques. You can train LoRAs on your characters for consistency.

It takes seconds to generate a panel for a comic; you make a sketch, then generate hundreds of candidates, pick the best one, maybe correct flaws in Photoshop, and it's still faster and cheaper than drawing it yourself from scratch. It's just another workflow for an artist. I use Blender to model rough sketches of 3D scenes, then use ComfyUI to render high quality images with lots of details.

Re: Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Post by NoOn3 »

osmarks wrote: post #13

Artists correctly realized the threat to their future economic viability and made up reasons it was morally bad. Programmers are currently stuck in an earlier stage, insistent that it can never replace them because [various things].

Advanced programmers don't use AI assistants because it doesn't help them write complex new code. This is mostly good for completing only well-known and more or less simple tasks. And I hope that such people understand the danger posed by "artificial intelligence" in many cases and in many forms.

Re: Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Post by tomhow »

Hasu wrote: post #39

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> You are a massive hypocrite, and it seems like you're a scammer and a thief, too.

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Re: Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Post by gls2ro »

europeanNyan wrote: post #35
Sindisil wrote: post #28

Who is "we", Kimosabe? Personally, I have no time for gen-AI in pretty much any context, at least given the current landscape. And plenty of people seem to accept, if not love, gen-AI art. I don't get it, but it's true. > While browsing YouTube, an AI-generated video appeared and I reflexively told my wife, “That’s AI—skip it.” My reflex whenever I encounter gen-AI output in any form: text, code, image, music, video,…

> And plenty of people seem to accept, if not love, gen-AI art. I don't get it, but it's true. I get a kick out of generating photos with family and friends in different styles like Play-Doh, Simpsons, Ghibli, etc. All of them like it, too. Maybe that's what people like, a very relatable use of the technology.

Just a random comment:

In general when friends and family say they like something you do, they might not like that but they say they do because they like interaction with you, or are being polite, or they want to encourage action or they dont fully understand what you do but appreciate you are including them and so on. Unless you have a candid person in this group you should be skeptic when they provide feedback about a piece of tech you are building (or an AI generated image).

Re: Ask HN: Why do we celebrate AI-Copilots but reject AI–Generated art?

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Post by gls2ro »

aDyslecticCrow wrote: post #38

LLMs are not good enough to replace programmers, authors or journalists (and I suspect never will, since they still rely on accurate and human written sources to produce anything of value) However, AI art generators in their current form may render all artistic jobs unlivable within 20 years. Learning to draw is one of the most time-intensive skills to master. A master's degree in CS is sufficient to secure a good jo…

Isnt this maybe a bias?

Developers saying LLMs are not good enough to replace programmers but can replace artists.

An artist can say the same: LLMs are not good enough to replace artists but they seem good enough to replace programmers.

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